the World isn’t burning

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the World isn’t burning

Post by ToHelp&recieveHelp » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:07 am

Anyone else truely experience that the world is burning? Like literally looking around & seeing all of the suffering & problems amongst everyone? What can I do? How can this end? Any advice? Or is all hope gone? There has to be a way.

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Re: the World isn’t burining

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:52 am

Adittapariyaya Sutta: The Fire Sermon
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .nymo.html


Consciousness and no-self (explained in drawings)
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Re: the World isn’t burining

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:11 am

Verse 89. Arahats Are Beyond Worldliness

Those who come to Wakening
with mind full-cultivated,
delight, no longer clinging,
in relinquishing attachment:
they, without pollution, radiant,
in this world have reach Nibbana.


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Explanation: There are those wise individuals who have practiced extremely well the factors conducive to the attainment of liberation. They do not cling to anything emotionally or mentally. They are opposed to the tendency to be greedy and grasping, They take delight in non-grasping. They, the shining ones, who are totally bereft of blemishes, have attained liberation in this world itself.

http://www.buddhanet.net/dhammapada/d_wise.htm
http://www.acessoaoinsight.net/dhp/dhp6.php

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Re: the World isn’t burning

Post by DooDoot » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:24 am

ToHelp&recieveHelp wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:07 am
Anyone else truely experience that the world is burning? Like literally looking around & seeing all of the suffering & problems amongst everyone? What can I do? How can this end? Any advice? Or is all hope gone? There has to be a way.
There is a way for the individual but possibly not a way for the world. Today, the world is burning so much more than it did before (in my lifetime).
174. Blind is the world; here only a few possess insight. Only a few, like birds escaping from the net, go to realms of bliss.

Dhammapada
There is always an official executioner. If you try to take his place, It is like trying to be a master carpenter and cutting wood. If you try to cut wood like a master carpenter, you will only hurt your hand.

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Re: the World isn’t burning

Post by Lucas Oliveira » Mon Apr 30, 2018 1:54 pm

Thus a monk, persistence aroused,
should view the aggregates
by day & by night,
mindful,
alert;
should discard all fetters;
should make himself
his own refuge;
should live as if
his head were on fire —
in hopes of the state
with no falling away.

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html


Verse 146. One Pacifying Word Is Noble

Why this laughter, why this joy,
when it’s ever blazing?
Shrouded all about in gloom
won’t you look for the light?


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Explanation: When you are perpetually burning with the flames of passion, what laughter, what pleasure? When you are enveloped in the darkness of ignorance, why do you not seek the light of Wisdom to dispel that darkness?

http://www.buddhanet.net/dhammapada/d_oldage.htm
http://www.acessoaoinsight.net/dhp/dhp11.php

As if struck by a sword, as if his head were on fire, a monk should live the wandering life mindful for the abandoning of sensual passion.
Th 1.39 Tissa
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Re: the World isn’t burning

Post by santa100 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:58 pm

ToHelp&recieveHelp wrote:Anyone else truely experience that the world is burning? Like literally looking around & seeing all of the suffering & problems amongst everyone? What can I do? How can this end? Any advice? Or is all hope gone? There has to be a way.
That's the inherent nature of conditioned existence. Try your best to help yourself and others using the Buddha's Dhamma as the way, but do also realize that you cannot help saving the world all by yourself.
"Where would I find enough leather
To cover the entire surface of the earth?
But with leather soles beneath my feet,
It’s as if the whole world has been covered." ~ Santideva ~

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Re: the World isn’t burning

Post by rightviewftw » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:07 pm

human realm is a f*** up place, i do not even want to talk to people anymore as in literally considering going mute... It is so simple, repetitive and boring, i don't even want to talk about it, not worth the breath.

I hardly want to teach the Dhamma anymore, not as much as i used to anyway. Today i was talking to a christian lady and she like most people wanted to understand the Genesis and the concept of Nibbana, i got nauseated and very tired of explaining it towards the end, i almost passed out and had to sit down. Maybe i was stingy with the Dhamma and should have done more but she told me it seemed complicated and the simplicity of a linear timeline and storylike explaination of the biblical genesis appealed to her more so than the technicalities of elements unfortunately. I do feel bad for not teaching her more but i find it extremely demanding to teach the Dhamma in general, especially doing it properly.

I am occasionally counting the years until the life force is exhausted and i find solace in the impermanence of the human state, knowing that i have some 60-70 years left at most is comforting.

It seems to me that the more i get drawn into "worldliness" the more the world upsets me, if training a lot and meditating it is a lot better because one gets more of renunciation happiness. The worldly joy is quite based so i get upset and grumpy more.

I think mastering the absorbtion solves a lot of this because one can kill time most effectively and can fast forward and minimize living.
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Re: the World isn’t burning

Post by JohnK » Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:27 pm

ToHelp&recieveHelp wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:07 am
Anyone else truely experience that the world is burning? Like literally
Like literally? No.
Like figuratively? Yes.
What can I do?
One possibility: practice loving kindness/universal goodwill, compassion, empathetic joy, and equanimity -- the latter will help you deal with the fact that you can't fix everything -- compassion may move you to action to alleviate suffering; discernment and equanimity will help you maintain balance and recognize what action may be effective, suited to you and the situation, and how to engage appropriately in that action.
How can this end?
Well, the world was "burning" at the time of the Buddha as well; and the Buddha did not speak of any social utopia (that I am aware of). He did speak of wise rulers who helped to establish more just and peaceful social relations. Bhikkhu Bodhi has a new collection you might want to check out, The Buddha's Teachings on Social and Communal Harmony; he says the Buddha "founded an intentional community devoted to fostering inner and outer peace." The more people following the precepts (or other such ethical guidelines), the better.
Any advice?
Practice the path, behave ethically, be a good example, act with compassion and equanimity, know your own suffering and the clinging that causes it.
Or is all hope gone?
That depends on what you are hoping for.
There has to be a way.
Fourth Noble Truth -- The way to the end of suffering is the Eightfold Path.
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Re: the World isn’t burning

Post by JohnK » Mon Apr 30, 2018 6:32 pm

FWIW:
https://www.npr.org/2016/07/16/48631103 ... ss-violent
"Despite the headlines, Steven Pinker says the world is becoming less violent."
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Re: the World isn’t burning

Post by Bundokji » Tue May 01, 2018 8:12 am

I use the question raised in the OP to contemplate what does it mean to be an enlightened human being. The Brahmaviharas are related to the relationship between the individual and the world, hence i find them particularly useful.


Lovingkindness, good-will (metta): Near enemy – attachment; far enemy – hatred
Compassion (karuna): Near enemy – pity; far enemy – cruelty
Sympathetic joy, Appreciation (mudita), joy at the good fortune of others: Near enemy – comparison,hypocrisy, insincerity, joy for others but tinged with identification (my team, my child); far enemy – envy
Equanimity (upekkha): Near enemy – indifference; far enemy – anxiety, greed
And the Blessed One addressed the bhikkhus, saying: "Behold now, bhikkhus, I exhort you: All compounded things are subject to vanish. Strive with earnestness!"

This was the last word of the Tathagata.

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Re: the World isn’t burning

Post by paul » Tue May 01, 2018 1:31 pm

“These four attitudes are said to be excellent or sublime because they are the right or ideal way of conduct towards living beings (sattesu samma patipatti). They provide, in fact, the answer to all situations arising from social contact.”—Ven. Nyanaponika

Being adept at the social attitudes of the brahma-viharas allows the practitioner to maintain the opposite path of insight without getting into conflict.
Insight categorizes conventional reality and necessitates detachment, but the brahma-vihara attitudes deal with it in a way that acknowledges, but simultaneously allows insight to function freely, acting as protective meditations. I think that is their primary function, but those who are predominantly socially inclined may practise them in isolation, however dealing as they do with the relationship with conventional reality, their scope is consequently limited, so by themselves they are not intended to lead to total release.


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