Thanks, but I don't subscribe to the idea of Chakras and don't regard them as part of Buddhist teaching.Hanzze wrote:Maybe that help on the question:
I remember seeing the same documentary. I think there were several cases shown where the recipient of the heart after the operation suddenly starts engaging in some completely new habits - I think there was a case of a person suddenly starting to write poetry, and later he found out that his heart donor was actually a poet. Or one that I remember as funny - I think there was a lady who suddenly started having a lot of fast food and beer after the operation, and she found out later on that her heart donor was a bikerrowyourboat wrote:I remember seeing a documentary in the BBC saying that those who have had heart transplants remembering the previous person's memories! Several cases in fact..! It was saying that the heart has nerve tissue much like that of the brain. So far it is known that the heart can generate its own impulses using this nerve tissue, even when it is not connected to the brain. So I think it is not yet established in science but there are some indicators that we maybe heading in that direction...
As I remember, there are two notes in Visuddhimagga (Nanamoli translation, 1991 edition) that summarise the issue well - a long note 26 in chapter XIV (page 809) and a small note 5 in chapter XIII (page 802) - as I remember both of these are basically a translation of the commentary to Visuddhimagga.Stefan wrote:Is this only the commentators' opinion or does this come from the Buddha himself?A Discourse on Dependent Origination, p. 92, Mahāsī Sayādaw wrote:According to the commentaries, the heart forms the physical basis of all mental events.
Yes, I take your point about self-observation. I seem to mostly experience stuff in my head. I think this is mostly because of biology, the fact that 4 of the 5 sense organs are physically located in the head. Alternatively it could mean I am over-intellectual.Hanzze wrote: I don't know much about chakras and there is for sure a lot of esoteric, but I could not reject it when I observe my self.
Interesting, though I take references like this to be metaphorical. You know when somebody says they're thinking with their heart, not their head? So "heart" stands for emotion / feelings, "head" stands for rational thought. But it's all mental activity.O'seeker wrote:Nice.
Mark 7:21-23 (New International Version)
" For it is from within, out of a person’s HEART, that evil THOUGHTS come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. All these evils come from inside and defile a person.”
Well I can tell you this for sure. I had quit smoking cigs for a week and that clinging emotion that was is my heart area and solar plexus caused thoughts and images of attaining smokes to run through the mind almost continuously and vice versa.Spiny O'Norman wrote:
Interesting, though I take references like this to be metaphorical. You know when somebody says they're thinking with their heart, not their head? So "heart" stands for emotion / feelings, "head" stands for rational thought. But it's all mental activity.
Individual wrote:Oh, I see now. I didn't know at first what you meant by "heart rate variability". As I see it, this is nothing special; that is, it says nothing about how thoughts or consciousness are somehow governed by the heart, only that certain emotional or psychological problems can affect cardiovascular health. For instance, this article:Nibbida wrote:Sure. Certain findings seem pretty consistent, whether from Heartmath or other people. Negative states of mind are associated with low heart rate variability, meaning that the heart does not have the normal responsiveness to situations and demands, changing as needed.
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Unhealthy emotions create an unnecessary trigger of the fight-or-flight response, which could conceivably reduce the body's capacity to respond to stress appropriately (which includes heart rate variability, it also includes things like cortisol, but would you equate the adrenal glands with "mind"?).
Also, I still don't see the credibility or relevance of Heartmath. This website (assuming this is them) definitely looks misleading:
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Even if it were true that consciously monitoring heart-rate and comparing it with emotions could work to extend life (a self-diagnosis made by a completely unqualified person with no medical or educational background??)... Even if this were true, with right mindfulness one can be aware of the heartbeat and emotions without paying for a machine.
Yes, there are physiological aspects to emotions, and we experience bodily sensations in conjunction with mental states due to hormone release etc. But that's not the same as saying that bodily organs are somehow conscious. I find that the scientific model of human biology makes sense to me, and feel no need to look for alternative explanations.O'seeker wrote:
I ask you to pay attention to what happens the next time you feel anxiety in a certain situation. Next time you are startled by something, too... from where do you feel it?
Not just hormone release. Vedana arise dependent on past kamma, physical nutriment, climate, and lastly, but not least, phassa (contact). The scientific model of human biology is fine, but its not complete.Spiny O'Norman wrote:and we experience bodily sensations in conjunction with mental states due to hormone release etc.