what's your hindrance?

General discussion of issues related to Theravada Meditation, e.g. meditation postures, developing a regular sitting practice, skillfully relating to difficulties and hindrances, etc.

what's your hindrance?

1.Sensual desire (kāmacchanda)
9
21%
2.Anger or ill-will (byāpāda, vyāpāda)
9
21%
3.Sloth-torpor or boredom (thīna-middha)
14
33%
4.Restlessness-worry (uddhacca-kukkucca)
9
21%
5.Doubt (vicikicchā)
1
2%
 
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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by m0rl0ck » Wed Jul 14, 2010 1:25 pm

IanAnd wrote:Well, when I began to establish mindfulness before meditating, that changed the whole ballgame for me. Suddenly, each meditation really meant something, and I was experiencing better and better meditation sessions. The mind was calming down more quickly, becoming still, and I was more alert and awake and able to contemplate better. My alertness increased big time, and my meditations became deeper and more profound with insight.

Many times, in order to make sure I was fully awake, I would take extra time to just sit and read for a while before meditating. Usually something that I knew would stimulate and enhance the meditation. Something that I could keep in mind as a kind of guidepost to what I wanted to be able to accomplish and use during contemplation. More times than not, it helped to set the tone for the whole meditation session by infusing the mind with a pathway to follow once the meditation began.


Here's another little trick you can use. At night, before nodding off to sleep, give yourself a brief post-slumber suggestion. It doesn't need to be anything fancy. Something like this will do: "I will sleep restfully, and awaken refreshed, alert and focused."
Thank you :) Out of sheer mental laziness, i suppose, i forget things like this sometimes and need to be reminded.
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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by jcsuperstar » Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:00 pm

i like to listen to dhamma talks prior to meditation, i do it sitting in the meditation position and focusing on my breath, the dhamma talk is not my main focus but it seem i get more out of it and my mind calms down and is better suited to the meditation that comes after the talk
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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by Reductor » Wed Jul 14, 2010 10:19 pm

I sit in front of my shrine and contemplate the triple gem. I recall the Dhamma to mind by thinking of how I would explain it to this person or that in my life. I may read suttas.

Whatever works.

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by alan » Fri Jul 16, 2010 4:09 am

My main hindrance is lust. Main underlying tendency is irritation. Per Analyo pages 224-226, I'm practicing sense restraint. It's actually kind of nice.

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by mettafuture » Fri Jul 16, 2010 9:59 pm

I'll-will, and I counter it with metta meditation.

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by Annapurna » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:07 am

I used to be lazy, but now it's:

Restlessness and worry.

Part of growing up, I think, I have more responsibilities and I often worry if I'll get everything done...:roll:

Good food is important to... :embarassed:

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by jcsuperstar » Sat Jul 17, 2010 8:14 am

thereductor wrote: I recall the Dhamma to mind by thinking of how I would explain it to this person or that in my life.

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i do that at times too. weird
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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by Reductor » Sat Jul 17, 2010 4:35 pm

jcsuperstar wrote:
thereductor wrote: I recall the Dhamma to mind by thinking of how I would explain it to this person or that in my life.

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i do that at times too. weird
Weird nothing! Great minds... and all that! :D

I've tried recalling the Dhamma to mind without this mental soapbox but find it hard to do. But by having a certain personality in mind I can imagine questions and doubts from their perspective, which I then 'answer'.

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Post by jcsuperstar » Sat Jul 17, 2010 11:53 pm

i do it with more practice now after an event a couple years ago while i was living in a Thai temple.

we had just finished chanting and meditating and it was time for the dhamma talk, which was usually in Thai then a monk would sum it up for me. this night the monks started speaking in English first "tonight we will have our dhamma talk in English"
aww i though that's nice of them, but so unnecessary, but then i noticed they weren't talking, they were looking at me, and so were the people visiting the temple.
i was to give the dhamma talk. right then, right there having never been asked or prepared or even have imagined such a thing could happen...
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by Ben » Sun Jul 18, 2010 1:51 am

jcsuperstar wrote:i do it with more practice now after an event a couple years ago while i was living in a Thai temple.

we had just finished chanting and meditating and it was time for the dhamma talk, which was usually in Thai then a monk would sum it up for me. this night the monks started speaking in English first "tonight we will have our dhamma talk in English"
aww i though that's nice of them, but so unnecessary, but then i noticed they weren't talking, they were looking at me, and so were the people visiting the temple.
i was to give the dhamma talk. right then, right there having never been asked or prepared or even have imagined such a thing could happen...
Wow!
How was it JC?
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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by Guy » Sun Jul 18, 2010 2:07 am

thereductor wrote:I've tried recalling the Dhamma to mind without this mental soapbox but find it hard to do. But by having a certain personality in mind I can imagine questions and doubts from their perspective, which I then 'answer'.
I am a mental-soapboxer too, especially on retreat.
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1) Giving; expecting nothing back in return
2) Throwing things away
3) Contentment; wanting to be here, not wanting to be anywhere else
4) "Teflon Mind"; having a mind which doesn't accumulate things

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by jcsuperstar » Sun Jul 18, 2010 3:03 am

Ben wrote:
jcsuperstar wrote:i do it with more practice now after an event a couple years ago while i was living in a Thai temple.

we had just finished chanting and meditating and it was time for the dhamma talk, which was usually in Thai then a monk would sum it up for me. this night the monks started speaking in English first "tonight we will have our dhamma talk in English"
aww i though that's nice of them, but so unnecessary, but then i noticed they weren't talking, they were looking at me, and so were the people visiting the temple.
i was to give the dhamma talk. right then, right there having never been asked or prepared or even have imagined such a thing could happen...
Wow!
How was it JC?
horrible

i just tried to stick to the 8FP and ask questions to get people to talk for me in a way, sorta a Socratic method type of thing :tongue:
i think i made a girl mad by kinda implying she was practicing wrong livelihood too :oops:
one other time i was asked to talk i just talked about the breath, how the breath was a refuge, when we're angry or hurt we can always just come to the breath, i thought that was pretty good, but then a guy said when he meditates he sees scary stuff and alas my thunder was stolen..
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the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by Reductor » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:02 am

Aie! That's a tough situation, JC. The hardest talk I ever had to give was a 3 minute presentation on septic shock. :tongue: I fumbled that one.
Guy wrote:
thereductor wrote:I've tried recalling the Dhamma to mind without this mental soapbox but find it hard to do. But by having a certain personality in mind I can imagine questions and doubts from their perspective, which I then 'answer'.
I am a mental-soapboxer too, especially on retreat.
Thank your stars I don't break out my online soapbox to often!

:jumping:

I don't mind talking Dhamma to people that I know, but I never feel that I've done it justice.

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by jcsuperstar » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:09 am

dhamma talks are hard, I've heard talks by respected monks on topics I'm really interested in and been like, jeez when is this gonna end? i kind of think about it like music now, there are different styles that appeal to different people, talent really doesn't not play into it at all, just like there are many talented musicians whose music i abhor there are many learned monks who i cant stand listening to dhamma talks from.
สัพเพ สัตตา สุขีตา โหนตุ

the mountain may be heavy in and of itself, but if you're not trying to carry it it's not heavy to you- Ajaan Suwat

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Re: what's your hindrance?

Post by retrofuturist » Sun Jul 18, 2010 4:13 am

Greetings,
jcsuperstar wrote:there are many learned monks who i cant stand listening to dhamma talks from.
Including.... those.... who.... talk..... really..... really..... slow....

Metta,
Retro. :)
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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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