Dalai Lama's opinion of Vissudhimagga

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Sönam wrote:
ok, so I apologize for not being "immediate" with english !
That is nothing you need to apologize for. My only point is that it sometime easy to misunderstand what is being said.
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Veering slightly off the immediate topic ... which translation of the Vsm do you folks like?
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Hi Kim
I think you will find most people will have the Bhikkhu Ñāṇamoli translation published either by BPS or Pariyatti.
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Bhikkhu Ñāṇamoli was a gentleman and a scholar. ;)
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As Ben says, the Nanamoli translation from BPS is probably the realistic choice.
http://www.bps.lk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Aparrently they are working on a re-typesetting, which will also result in a free PDF. See the post here by Bhikkhu Nyanatusita:
http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.ph ... =20#p32156" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As far as I know, the only other option in English is the ancient PTS translation:
http://www.palitext.com/palitext/tran.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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BlackBird wrote:Bhikkhu Ñāṇamoli was a gentleman and a scholar. ;)
Indeed! As was Bhadantacariya Buddhaghosa.
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Thanks, folks.
I'll put it on my wish list. :smile:

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Ben wrote:
BlackBird wrote:Bhikkhu Ñāṇamoli was a gentleman and a scholar. ;)
Indeed! As was Bhadantacariya Buddhaghosa.
Very true, we're a fortunate lot to have met all this. I think we might just owe a good deal of gratitude to these Bhantes.
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bodom wrote:I would venture to say the visuddhimagga is a little intimidating and baffling to most at first. I know it was for me when I first picked it up. It is basically the entire tipitaka condensed between two covers. There is alot to take in and digest.

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It's not as bad as it looks. any big book can be intimidating. But it is well worth the read.

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tiltbillings wrote:
Here is Wallace's broadside against vipassana practice: http://www.tricycle.com/a-mindful-balance" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I am not impressed.
I want to discuss this article further, but don't want to go off topic. So, I'm starting a new thread here:

http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=4623" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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