Buddha is Maya

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Buddha is Maya

Post by lovediction » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:45 pm

And Maya is Buddha.

Gotama Buddha's Dhamma is a contradiction of his own teaching and he subjects man for 2,500 years into his sangha by his rule. That is, Buddha's destiny to be king came true and he has done the most remarkable feat than any other king in history. He has ruled men past his own death over centuries without even being present.

As a matter of fact Buddhas greatest idea was to expound a false dhamma to doubtful men. Those that see through Buddha BUT UNDERSTAND him are enlightened people.

Buddha plays Maya to those who forget they already are buddhas.

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by DNS » Sat Mar 13, 2010 4:53 pm

Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!

When you use the term maya, are you referring to the sanskrit term for "illusion" ?

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by lovediction » Sat Mar 13, 2010 9:59 pm

David N. Snyder wrote:Welcome to Dhamma Wheel!

When you use the term maya, are you referring to the sanskrit term for "illusion" ?

Your post sounds similar to some Mahayana teaching? You may also want to join:

http://www.dharmawheel.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; (a Mahayana forum, associated with this site)
Thank you for the welcome.

Actually, i really meant Mara.

Therefore, Buddha is Mara, Mara--Buddha.

That said, in terms of Genius I sincerely believe Gotama ranks in the top three geniuses the world has ever seen. In terms of mind, he is number one.

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by acinteyyo » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:28 pm

lovediction wrote:As a matter of fact Buddhas greatest idea was to expound a false dhamma to doubtful men.
Would you please explain this further.

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by bodom » Sat Mar 13, 2010 10:38 pm

acinteyyo wrote:
lovediction wrote:As a matter of fact Buddhas greatest idea was to expound a false dhamma to doubtful men.
Would you please explain this further.

best wishes, acinteyyo
I was hoping for clarification of the entire post myself.

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To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

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with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by retrofuturist » Sat Mar 13, 2010 11:58 pm

:shock:
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by plwk » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:36 am

Buddha is Mara, Mara is Buddha ....Image

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by meindzai » Sun Mar 14, 2010 1:41 am

plwk wrote:Image
Hotei is Hotei.

-M

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by BlackBird » Sun Mar 14, 2010 2:33 am

What led you to draw these strange conclusions Rizzo?

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"For a disciple who has conviction in the Teacher's message & lives to penetrate it, what accords with the Dhamma is this:
'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by Kenshou » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:28 am

...do I detect some buddha-dhatu/tathagatagarbha? My Mahayana senses are tingling.

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:35 am

So far this is one dumb-assed thread. Maybe it might get better. . .
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>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by retrofuturist » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:40 am

Don't hold your breath.

:lol:

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Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:45 am

Too late
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>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:49 am

The result:
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>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by plwk » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:56 am

Image
Hotei is Hotei.
It was the picture of his laugh that I wanted to borrow for that quote, not relating him to the quote per se :jumping:
(Then again, I should have used Mr Bean...)

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by tiltbillings » Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:04 am

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>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

“Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?” HPatDH p.723

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by cooran » Sun Mar 14, 2010 6:05 am

BlackBird wrote:What led you to draw these strange conclusions Rizzo?

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Do you know this poster Jack? Or am I misunderstanding the name Rizzo?

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by BlackBird » Sun Mar 14, 2010 7:47 am

Howdy Chris

See inbox :)

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'The Blessed One is the Teacher, I am a disciple. He is the one who knows, not I." - MN. 70 Kitagiri Sutta

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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by Fede » Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:08 am

Well that was fun.... what shall we do now?
It's such a lovely day here, how about building some castles in the air....?

(Mothering Sunday in the UK... have a great one, all mothers!)

Now where were we?
oh yes..... Dropping air-bricks..... :juggling:


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Re: Buddha is Maya

Post by DNS » Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:06 pm

Fede wrote: (Mothering Sunday in the UK... have a great one, all mothers!)
Happy Mothering Day ! ! !

How ironic, this thread was accidentally called "Buddha is Maya" when the OP meant to say "Buddha is Mara."

Maya (Pali version not the Sanskrit one) is the name of Buddha's mother!

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