sentinel wrote: ↑Wed Oct 09, 2019 12:32 pm
Very unlikely .
Let's see ,
aging of a (view) , decrepit of a (view) , breaking of a (view) , graying of a (view) , wrinkling of a (view) , declining of a life force , weakening of the faculties of the various (views) , in this group or that group of (views) , that is called aging .
You have misunderstood. I already explained to you, as follows:
"Now what is aging and death? Whatever aging, decrepitude, brokenness, graying, wrinkling, decline of life-force, weakening of the faculties of the various identity views that are "beings", such as my mother, my father, my sister, my brother, myself in this or that group of beings, such as my family, my community, my country, that is called aging. Whatever deceasing, passing away, breaking up, disappearance, dying, death, completion of time, break up of the aggregates, casting off of the body, interruption in the life faculty of the various identity views that are beings/identities in this or that group of beings, that is called death.
It is very likely, as the suttas appears to explain, as follows:
Bhikkhu, ‘I am’ is a conceiving; ‘I am this’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall not be’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be possessed of form’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be formless’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be percipient’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be non-percipient’ is a conceiving; ‘I shall be neither-percipient-nor-non-percipient’ is a conceiving. Conceiving is a disease, conceiving is a tumour, conceiving is a dart. By overcoming all conceivings, bhikkhu, one is called a sage at peace. And the sage at peace is not born, does not age, does not die; he is not shaken and does not yearn. For there is nothing present in him by which he might be born. Not being born, how could he age? Not ageing, how could he die? Not dying, how could he be shaken? Not being shaken, why should he yearn?
Bhikkhu Thanissaro did not have a problem understanding my interpretation:
When you look in the mirror and see grey hair & wrinkled skin and suffer about the grey hair & wrinkled skin, you suffer because of the thought: "my
hair is grey; my
skin is wrinkling, I am
aging". The views of "I", "my", "I am", etc, are views.