Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

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Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by SarathW » Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:50 pm

Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?
For instance, many animals are killed because we eat them. If we do not eat meat or consume less many living will be saved.
In regards to right livelihood if we do not invest in industries like Vine growing then no vine will be produced.
Because we do not educate our children and not looking after our worker's people tend to break precepts.
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by Sam Vara » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:04 pm

These short talks by Ajahn Jayasaro might be of interest:
On a more subtle level one can be mindful of thoughts and emotions and so on,
but it’s important to have an object of recollection that’s a little more concrete
and coarse. And it's the precepts which provide this function. We’re mindful of
precepts. In other words, when we’re keeping precepts we’re practicing
mindfulness.
https://forestsangha.org/teachings/book ... ge=English

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A655zG3joNw

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by Zom » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:23 pm

For instance, many animals are killed because we eat them. If we do not eat meat or consume less many living will be saved.
Poor argument. First, you can't save anyone if his kamma is short life. Ok, it won't be eaten here, but it will be eaten somewhere esle. Second, if you want to decrease meat production, better put effort in public anti-meat orginized social campaigns (if there are such) or donate money for aritificial meat research. This will be 1000 times more effective than just ignoring dead flesh.

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by cappuccino » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:27 pm

never mind meat, you should be concerned about the teaching

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by santa100 » Mon Aug 12, 2019 9:28 pm

SarathW wrote:In regards to right livelihood if we do not invest in industries like Vine growing then no vine will be produced.
It depends, Vitis can be used for many other products, not just wine. Same thing for knife making. If there's no knives, lots of people could be saved from knife inflicted wounds, but also at the same time, lots of folks will have to eat raw uncut foodstuff. Things gets even more complicated when it comes to high tech weaponry. Advanced missiles can be used to destroy life (attack mode) or save life (intercept mode, ie. shooting down incoming missiles), depending on how it's used..

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by sunnat » Tue Aug 13, 2019 12:19 am

-There is direct benefit to the person keeping precepts irrespective of whether other people or society in general, keep, recognise or respect them.

Even so, while wholesome actions makes walking on the path possible, it does have an effect on the behaviours of others whether they want it to be so or are aware of the effect or not.

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by chownah » Tue Aug 13, 2019 4:12 am

SarathW wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:50 pm
Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?
For instance, many animals are killed because we eat them. If we do not eat meat or consume less many living will be saved.
In regards to right livelihood if we do not invest in industries like Vine growing then no vine will be produced.
Because we do not educate our children and not looking after our worker's people tend to break precepts.
I think the buddha did teach this.....
For instance, one should be mindful that if one does not eat meat that no lives will be saved as everything which is born will die.
For instance, one should be mindful that if we do not invest in wine that the production of wine will continue; after all wine was produced in huge quantities even before investing was invented.
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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by Volo » Tue Aug 13, 2019 8:22 am

SarathW wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:50 pm
Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?
For instance, many animals are killed because we eat them. If we do not eat meat or consume less many living will be saved.
In regards to right livelihood if we do not invest in industries like Vine growing then no vine will be produced.
Because we do not educate our children and not looking after our worker's people tend to break precepts.
It seems what you're asking is similar to clear comprehension (sampajañña), often mentioned together with sati. In particular the first two types of it: clear comprehension of purpose and of suitability. The Commentary to Mahasatipatthana sutta gives some examples when it's better to refrain from a seemingly wholesome act if it's not suitable at given circumstances (translated by Ven Soma in The way of mindfulness):
There are these four kinds of comprehension: clear comprehension of purpose [satthaka sampajañña], of suitability [sappaya sampajañña], of resort [gocara sampajañña], and of non-delusion [asammoha sampajañña].

Among these four kinds of clear comprehension, the clear comprehension of purpose is the comprehension of (a worthy) purpose after considering what is worthy and not worthy, with the thought, "Is there any use to one by this going or is there not?" One does this not having gone immediately, just by the influence of the thought, at the very moment the thought of going forwards is born.

In this context, purpose is growth according to the Dhamma, by way of visiting a relic shrine, Tree of Enlightenment (Bodhi Tree), the Sangha, the elders, and a place where the dead are cast (a cemetery) for seeing the unlovely (a corpse, a skeleton and the like).

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Clear comprehension of suitability is the comprehension of the suitable after considering what is suitable and not.

For instance, the visiting of a relic shrine could be quite (worthily) purposeful. But when a great offering is made to a relic shrine, a multitude of people in a ten or twelve yojana area gather, and men and women according to their position go about adorned like painted figures. And if in that crowd greed could arise for the bhikkhu in an attractive object, resentment in a non-attractive one, and delusion through prejudice; if he could commit the offence of sexual intercourse; or if harm could come to the holy life of purity; then, a place like that relic shrine would not be suitable. When there could be no such harm it would be suitable.

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by justindesilva » Tue Aug 13, 2019 11:01 am

SarathW wrote:
Mon Aug 12, 2019 8:50 pm
Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?
For instance, many animals are killed because we eat them. If we do not eat meat or consume less many living will be saved.
In regards to right livelihood if we do not invest in industries like Vine growing then no vine will be produced.
Because we do not educate our children and not looking after our worker's people tend to break precepts.
Samma ajiva , samma kammantha, from N8FP explains that all our actions should be in a manner of avoiding loba dosa moha. Commercial aspects of farming or fishing either agri or animal farming today is not in keeping with noble eightfold path. In todays society only a modest living can comply with the N8FP , if one is ready to absorb dukka arising with it.

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by SarathW » Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:25 pm

Commercial aspects of farming or fishing either agri or animal farming today is not in keeping with noble eightfold path.
But how do you feed the growing population?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by justindesilva » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:35 am

SarathW wrote:
Tue Aug 13, 2019 7:25 pm
Commercial aspects of farming or fishing either agri or animal farming today is not in keeping with noble eightfold path.
But how do you feed the growing population?
The commercial institutes of farming is interested in quick money and not damma. If it is necessary one can find more beneficial methods. Look at Bhutan.

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Re: Did Buddha teach about mindfulness of your action?

Post by SarathW » Wed Aug 14, 2019 10:50 am

Look at Bhutan.
What is it?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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