polo wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 1:31 pm
The male must maintain turgidity without ejaculation otherwise all effort would be wasted. The female also must not reach orgasm at all.
really?
orgasm is what turns the energy into a form what will replete the sense organs with five strings of sensuality, so that you could get rid of hindrances and that period where you get rid of hindrances is what defines you where you go and what you do, so you should want to stay in seclusion so you could notice the urges to turn energies further..
the period where you do these practices are post O-gasm period. Since your senses are replete then you just need arouse subtle energies and turn them back or pull back from seminal duct and second time empty the pool of subtle energy what is at the root of seminal duct somewhere.
The intensity or what the practice look like, in your example case is literal..its just for to arouse not to joke around.
remember there is nocturnal O-gasms, you will be sent down to sensual world replete with sensuality again and again..in respect to nocturnal happening your daily life is always post O-gasm.
According to above then the thought what is sleep and is it post or pre daily waking state seem legit.
So in some sort you are correct that you need stop having O-gasm, but the context here seem doesn't take into account much other than horny energy what begs you to have release and if you do daily life O'gasm you will have again that same horny energy arousal period coming..and just avoiding having O-gasm is not an escape either.
i'm aware you talk other things too like:
polo wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 1:31 pm
I believe it has a lot to do with transcending the sexual climax to get in touch with the cosmic essence.
polo wrote: ↑Thu May 23, 2019 1:31 pm
When the penis is introduced into the vagina the couple both go into extreme concentration, it is this special concentration ability that could bypass the sexual pleasure.
maybe but do celibacy and get rid of hindrances, get jhanas.
celibacy makes you highly sensitive and you get aroused super easy(but only after you are sent down[period where you are lost in thought and coming out of it]) without need of actual threat(as having actual union with other sex), imo its the risk of failure, playing with fire in gas station what is the initiator or arousing factor of the cold energy in fire with what you cease pleasant energies.
Otherwords what you need is anxiety and fear and pain, these kind of energies.. without escaping them by O-gasm, it is i think release by non-clinging(non-clinging is after you comprehend dhamma(which i think is you have mastered this by using mind, arupa realms).
Not having by avoidance O-gasm doesn't mean you are above it or mastered the aspects of life in it. Peeps just 30 years avoiding Ogasms, can be progress-wise waste of time, since the O-gasm mechanics happen anyway you just not notice it.