A question about 'the fire clinging to it's fuel'

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Re: A question about 'the fire clinging to it's fuel'

Post by cappuccino » Mon Jun 10, 2019 6:39 pm

Zom wrote: Again, I ask: what annihilates?
there is nothing to annihilate, hence you must continue
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Re: A question about 'the fire clinging to it's fuel'

Post by Zom » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:23 pm

If there is nothing to annihilate, why you are afraid of it?

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Re: A question about 'the fire clinging to it's fuel'

Post by cappuccino » Mon Jun 10, 2019 9:24 pm

Zom wrote: If there is nothing to annihilate, why you are afraid of it?
nothing can be annihilated
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Re: A question about 'the fire clinging to it's fuel'

Post by manas » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:38 pm

mikenz66 wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 7:30 pm
Sam Vara wrote:
Sun Jun 09, 2019 5:42 pm
manas wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 11:26 pm
Hello all,
I have a question, about a simile i heard about. It's regarding craving being like a fire, and that an arahant is 'quenched' because this 'fire' of craving has 'gone out', which is the state of 'nibbana', the flame being 'blown out'. ...
Have you read this?

https://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/aut ... index.html

It's a lengthy essay on that particular idea. There is also an extended treatment of it in Gombrich's "What the Buddha Thought".
It's also discussed in detail in Bhikkhu Nanananda's work: https://seeingthroughthenet.net/books/
Particularly "Nibbana the Mind Stilled".
In "Questions & Answers on Dhamma" he notes:
“If the fire ‘goes out’ some think you should be able to go
and locate where it is. Some scholars in the West also follow the
same Hindu way where they think when the fire goes out it stays
in some ineffable state. When it comes to such points of absurdity
the Buddha had to correct them. ...
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Mike
I will take the opportunity to simply thank yourself, Sam Vara, and everyone else who has commented thus far. I now realize, I don't really understand this as yet. 'Further study is needed', as the saying goes, anyway thank you for the links.
:anjali:
From what's dear is born grief,
from what's dear is born fear.
For one freed from what's dear
there's no grief
— so how fear?


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Re: A question about 'the fire clinging to it's fuel'

Post by mikenz66 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:00 pm

manas wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:38 pm
I will take the opportunity to simply thank yourself, Sam Vara, and everyone else who has commented thus far. I now realize, I don't really understand this as yet. 'Further study is needed', as the saying goes, anyway thank you for the links.
:anjali:
You're welcome. It's an interesting and difficult topic, and it is worth exploring a range of opinions.

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