Nimitta and Ārammaṇa

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Srilankaputra
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Nimitta and Ārammaṇa

Post by Srilankaputra » Fri May 10, 2019 7:24 am

Dear sirs,

Please compare and contrast Nimitta and Ārammaṇa. :anjali:
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Paccuppannañca yo dhammaṃ,
Tattha tattha vipassati

“Yato yato mano nivāraye,
Na dukkhameti naṃ tato tato;
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Sa sabbato dukkhā pamuccatī”ti.

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Re: Nimitta and Ārammaṇa

Post by SarathW » Fri May 10, 2019 7:40 am

In short,
I would say Arammana is the object in your mind at a given time.
Nimitta is the subsequent image appears afterword.
For instance, say I am eating a mango now. Then Mango is the Arammana in my mind
Then tomorrow I get the Nimitta (sign) of the mango and looking for a mango to eat.

However, Nimitta is used in various context.

https://what-buddha-said.net/library/Bu ... tm#nimitta
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Re: Nimitta and Ārammaṇa

Post by Volo » Fri May 10, 2019 8:37 am

Since the topic is in Pali sub forum, I'm a bit confused what kind of comparison is desired :thinking:

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Re: Nimitta and Ārammaṇa

Post by DooDoot » Fri May 10, 2019 10:25 am

Srilankaputra wrote:
Fri May 10, 2019 7:24 am
Please compare and contrast Nimitta and Ārammaṇa.
Posting some relevant verse from the suttas would be helpful.
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Re: Nimitta and Ārammaṇa

Post by pyluyten » Fri May 10, 2019 8:31 pm

a famous article you probably know, that in my opinion states Nimitta is not the sign of object but sign of factors http://leighb.com/case_of_the_missing_simile.htm

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