Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

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SarathW
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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by SarathW » Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:55 pm

mikenz66 wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:45 pm
StormBorn wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:56 am
SarathW wrote:
Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:11 pm
Recently I was listening to Ven. Dhamma Subadda from Mithirigala Forest monastery.
He participates in the discussion relating to Late Most Ven. Katukurunde Nyanananda Maha Thero's Nibbana sermon.
He appears to be a knowledgeable monk.
There is no any material on the internet in the English language.

https://damsara.org/dhamma-talks-in-sin ... a-sermons/
Ñāṇananda’s Concept and Reality: An Assessment by Stephen Evans

Note: Late Ven. Katukurunde Ñāṇananda (Concept and Reality) and Kiribathgoda Ñāṇānanda (Mahamewnawa) are two different monks.
See also the critique of this article, which was discussed this year in Ven Analayo's course on the Nibbana Sermons:
Dhammadinnā, Bhikkhunī 2017: “Bhikkhu Ñāṇananda’s Concept and Reality: A Reply to Stephen Evans”, Buddhist Studies Review, 34.2: 151–180.

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Mike
Thanks Mike
What is the link?
“As the lamp consumes oil, the path realises Nibbana”

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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by mikenz66 » Fri Oct 12, 2018 1:52 am

SarathW wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 10:55 pm
mikenz66 wrote:
Thu Oct 11, 2018 9:45 pm
StormBorn wrote:
Tue Oct 09, 2018 12:56 am


Ñāṇananda’s Concept and Reality: An Assessment by Stephen Evans

Note: Late Ven. Katukurunde Ñāṇananda (Concept and Reality) and Kiribathgoda Ñāṇānanda (Mahamewnawa) are two different monks.
See also the critique of this article, which was discussed this year in Ven Analayo's course on the Nibbana Sermons:
Dhammadinnā, Bhikkhunī 2017: “Bhikkhu Ñāṇananda’s Concept and Reality: A Reply to Stephen Evans”, Buddhist Studies Review, 34.2: 151–180.

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Mike
Thanks Mike
What is the link?
It's in the same journal as the other article. I'm not sure if it's freely available. If you enrolled for Ven Analayo's course earlier this year you can access both articles there.

Mike

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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by Bhante Sudewa Thero » Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:01 pm

I am ordained in Mahamevnawa in Sri Lanka. If there is anything you want to know, please make contact.

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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by WorldTraveller » Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:02 pm

Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:01 pm
I am ordained in Mahamevnawa in Sri Lanka. If there is anything you want to know, please make contact.
How long you have been a monk in Mahamewnawa? Are you a novice (samanera) or a bhikkhu?
“Do not go by oral tradition, by lineage of teaching, by hearsay, by a canonical tradition, by logical reasoning, by inferential reasoning, by reasoned cogitation, by the acceptance of a view after pondering it, by the seeming competence of a speaker, or because you think: ‘The ascetic is our guru.’”
- Kālāma-sutta

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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by Bhante Sudewa Thero » Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:58 pm

WorldTraveller wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:02 pm
Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:01 pm
I am ordained in Mahamevnawa in Sri Lanka. If there is anything you want to know, please make contact.
How long you have been a monk in Mahamewnawa? Are you a novice (samanera) or a bhikkhu?
If you are interested in ordination as the original posting asked about, you are welcome to make contact. Send a message.

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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by WorldTraveller » Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:04 am

Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:58 pm
WorldTraveller wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:02 pm
Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:01 pm
I am ordained in Mahamevnawa in Sri Lanka. If there is anything you want to know, please make contact.
How long you have been a monk in Mahamewnawa? Are you a novice (samanera) or a bhikkhu?
If you are interested in ordination as the original posting asked about, you are welcome to make contact. Send a message.
Oh, by contact you meant PM. Well, the secrecy is one thing that will be off putting regarding an invitation to ordain. Let's say, I see some guy wearing a uniform, standing in public place and advertising "come and join the navy!" Then I will approach and ask him about his rank; how long he has been an naval officer; what's his experience with the navy, etc. And, if the officer replied "Let's go to the washroom of the behind building to discuss that" I will surely move away...
“Do not go by oral tradition, by lineage of teaching, by hearsay, by a canonical tradition, by logical reasoning, by inferential reasoning, by reasoned cogitation, by the acceptance of a view after pondering it, by the seeming competence of a speaker, or because you think: ‘The ascetic is our guru.’”
- Kālāma-sutta

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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by Bhante Sudewa Thero » Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:22 am

WorldTraveller wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 1:04 am
Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 8:58 pm
WorldTraveller wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 5:02 pm


How long you have been a monk in Mahamewnawa? Are you a novice (samanera) or a bhikkhu?
If you are interested in ordination as the original posting asked about, you are welcome to make contact. Send a message.
Oh, by contact you meant PM. Well, the secrecy is one thing that will be off putting regarding an invitation to ordain. Let's say, I see some guy wearing a uniform, standing in public place and advertising "come and join the navy!" Then I will approach and ask him about his rank; how long he has been an naval officer; what's his experience with the navy, etc. And, if the officer replied "Let's go to the washroom of the behind building to discuss that" I will surely move away...
Dear friend, I strongly think there are some misunderstandings here. This is not an invitation for you or anyone else to ordain. My comment in this thread was an answer to the person that started this all by telling he wondered about ordination in Mahamewnawa. Please remember the name of this thread: "Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?". Please also remember one normally does not ask a monk personal questions just like that, such as how long have you been a monk,,how much do you meditate, etc. Thank you for your time reading this.

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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by fornoxe » Mon Oct 22, 2018 4:10 am

Hi bhantè.

The misunderstood is in both side. Please share with everyone information. this forum was created for that.

With metta

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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by WorldTraveller » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:33 am

Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:22 am
Dear friend, I strongly think there are some misunderstandings here. This is not an invitation for you or anyone else to ordain. My comment in this thread was an answer to the person that started this all by telling he wondered about ordination in Mahamewnawa. Please remember the name of this thread: "Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?".
Your new thread, For ordination in Mahamevnawa in Sri Lanka seems to me an invitation too:
Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:18 pm
For those of you interested in ordination in Mahamevnawa in Sri Lanka, please visit our English website https://mahamevnawabm.org.
Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:22 am
Please also remember one normally does not ask a monk personal questions just like that, such as how long have you been a monk,,how much do you meditate, etc. Thank you for your time reading this.
The question "How long have you been a monk" I have asked many monks, and they very happily answer. Generally, more years means more credibility (but not always). If a monk unable to say how long he's been ordained, then surely an issue.

Regarding "how much do you meditate" I agree, unless you represent yourself as some meditation teacher/guru. However, I didn't ask that.
“Do not go by oral tradition, by lineage of teaching, by hearsay, by a canonical tradition, by logical reasoning, by inferential reasoning, by reasoned cogitation, by the acceptance of a view after pondering it, by the seeming competence of a speaker, or because you think: ‘The ascetic is our guru.’”
- Kālāma-sutta

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Re: Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?

Post by Bhante Sudewa Thero » Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:55 am

WorldTraveller wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 5:33 am
Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:22 am
Dear friend, I strongly think there are some misunderstandings here. This is not an invitation for you or anyone else to ordain. My comment in this thread was an answer to the person that started this all by telling he wondered about ordination in Mahamewnawa. Please remember the name of this thread: "Na Uyana or Mahamevnawa?".
Your new thread, For ordination in Mahamevnawa in Sri Lanka seems to me an invitation too:
Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Sun Oct 21, 2018 12:18 pm
For those of you interested in ordination in Mahamevnawa in Sri Lanka, please visit our English website https://mahamevnawabm.org.
Bhante Sudewa Thero wrote:
Mon Oct 22, 2018 3:22 am
Please also remember one normally does not ask a monk personal questions just like that, such as how long have you been a monk,,how much do you meditate, etc. Thank you for your time reading this.
The question "How long have you been a monk" I have asked many monks, and they very happily answer. Generally, more years means more credibility (but not always). If a monk unable to say how long he's been ordained, then surely an issue.

Regarding "how much do you meditate" I agree, unless you represent yourself as some meditation teacher/guru. However, I didn't ask that.
Yes, people not from a Buddhist culture often ask monks personal questions. That is correct. I think one should learn that it is not necessary questions that should be asked. And from a personal view I wonder why I should answer personal questions that is off topic and asked by someone calling him/herself "WorldTraveller" at an Internet forum. Personal questions asked by persons I know the identity of I would normally answer if OK because I understand the difference beween living in a Buddhist culture and outside one.

Thank you for bringing this up because it says something about the meeting between Asian Buddhism and the West. It also says something about the Internet. These are interesting topics but not part of this thread but could be a topic for a thread of its own. Very good observation. Thank you. And now I leave this discussion.

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