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Post by Dhammarakkhito » Mon May 28, 2018 3:12 am

Perceiving constancy in the inconstant, pleasure in the stressful, self in what's not-self, attractiveness in the unattractive, beings, destroyed by wrong-view, go mad, out of their minds. Bound to Mara's yoke, from the yoke they find no rest. Beings go on to the wandering-on, leading to birth & death. But when Awakened Ones arise in the world, bringing light to the world, they proclaim the Dhamma leading to the stilling of stress. When those with discernment listen, they regain their senses, seeing the inconstant as inconstant, the stressful as stressful, what's not-self as not-self, the unattractive as unattractive. Undertaking right view, they transcend all stress & suffering.
https://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitak ... .than.html

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www.miscopy.com/2835/bestgore/medic-stu ... oung-male/
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Post by DooDoot » Mon May 28, 2018 5:19 am

Thanks (in hindsight). I watched the whole video. Its exhausting. However, its amazing how those lumps of flesh perform their various life sustaining, life regulating, life coordinating, life reproducing and commutative functions. Its even more amazing how the mentality (nama) that is created by that flesh (rupa) can scientifically understand the flesh. Nature is insane. :shock:
Jesus said, "If the flesh came into being because of spirit, it is a wonder. But if spirit came into being because of the body, it is a wonder of wonders. Indeed, I am amazed at how this great wealth has made its home in this poverty."

Gospel of Thomas: http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gthlamb.html
Conjecture/thinking about the world is an unconjecturable that is not to be conjectured about, that would bring madness & vexation to anyone who conjectured about it.

Acintita Sutta: Unconjecturable

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Post by Dhammarakkhito » Sun Jun 17, 2018 12:16 am

i have a secret facebook group for objects of contemplation, secret because it could be reported and taken down, message me if interested in joining
"Just as the ocean has a single taste — that of salt — in the same way, this Dhamma-Vinaya has a single taste: that of release."
— Ud 5.5

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Post by Grigoris » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:38 am

DooDoot wrote:
Mon May 28, 2018 5:19 am
Its even more amazing how the mentality (nama) that is created by that flesh (rupa)...
Run that by me again?
ye dhammā hetuppabhavā tesaṁ hetuṁ tathāgato āha,
tesaṃca yo nirodho - evaṁvādī mahāsamaṇo.

Of those phenomena which arise from causes:
Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
And their cessation too - thus proclaims the Great Ascetic.

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Post by DooDoot » Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:59 am

Grigoris wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:38 am
Run that by me again?
Nama-rupa appears to be an interdependent compound; as the Mahayana illustrated in paintings (below).
The four great elements, bhikkhu, are the cause and condition for the manifestation of the rupa aggregate.

Nama-and-rupa is the cause and condition for the manifestation of the consciousness aggregate.

SN 22.82
That flesh can dictate mentality; such as hormones, chemicals & physical mechanisms for reproduction dictate mental behaviour. Those physical organs communicate; i.e., respond to neural & other messages. Are you are believer of "free-will"? Do you believe organisms "choose" to have lust or be angry or get sad or be frightened? To you believe in the questionable translation of "volitional formations" for the 2nd link of Dependent Origination? :shrug:
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Post by budo » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:11 am

I used to watch liveleak to see how messed up the world is, people dying to robberies, getting run over by trucks, heads popping like grapes, walls collapsing and crushing people, motorcyclists flying through the air and getting smeared across the road, people getting electrecuted by dangling wires, crushed by factory machinery, etc.. It never ends.

A lot of deaths are caused by ignorance and stupidity, but also a lot of deaths are completely out of their control.

Therefore there is only so much you can guard against, short of living on antarctica and trying to not freeze to death, still the future and reality is largely unpredictable.

The dhamma really is the only refuge. Let go of desires and you lower the risk of getting killed while chasing those desires, let go of your attachment to your 4 element body and learn to enjoy jhanas, and you'll never worry or be restless about death again.

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Post by DooDoot » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:15 am

budo wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:11 am
Let go of desires...let go of your attachment...
What if the organism (nama-rupa) is unable to? For example, what if the organism is unable to give up attachment & becoming over papanca about ideas about 'jhana'?
budo wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:11 am
4 element body and learn to enjoy jhanas
Viewing the organism as 4 elements seems the same as viewing emptiness (sunnata). Where as ideas about "my jhana" are not the Deathless.
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Post by budo » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:19 am

DooDoot wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:15 am
budo wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:11 am
Let go of desires...let go of your attachment...
What if the organism (nama-rupa) is unable to? For example, what if the organism is unable to give up attachment & becoming over papanca about ideas about 'jhana'?
They should meditate and contemplate and hopefully attain higher understanding.

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Post by DooDoot » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:19 am

budo wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:19 am
They should meditate and contemplate and hopefully attain higher understanding.
What if the organism (nama-rupa) is unable to? Did the Buddha (Seeing One) say all organisms/aggregates/nama-rupas would be liberated?

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Post by budo » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:22 am

DooDoot wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:19 am
budo wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:19 am
They should meditate and contemplate and hopefully attain higher understanding.
What if the organism (nama-rupa) is unable to? Did the Buddha say all organisms or aggregates would be liberated?
I believe only those who cannot hear nor see cannot be taught the dhamma. I believe every person can meditate and if not meditate, at least reflect and contemplate.

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Post by DooDoot » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:32 am

budo wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:22 am
I believe only those who cannot hear nor see cannot be taught the dhamma. I believe every person can meditate and if not meditate, at least reflect and contemplate.
Does not appear to be the view of the suttas.

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Post by budo » Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:36 am

DooDoot wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:32 am
budo wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 10:22 am
I believe only those who cannot hear nor see cannot be taught the dhamma. I believe every person can meditate and if not meditate, at least reflect and contemplate.
Does not appear to be the view of the suttas.
I remember reading the Buddha could not teach his teachers alara kalama and udaka ramaputta because they were reborn in the formless realms where they could not hear nor see and thus not receive the dhamma.

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Re: autopsy

Post by Grigoris » Sun Jun 17, 2018 1:44 pm

DooDoot wrote:
Sun Jun 17, 2018 9:59 am
Nama-and-rupa is the cause and condition for the manifestation of the consciousness aggregate.
It is one thing to say that they are interdependent and another that says mind arises from form (a materialist position).
That flesh can dictate mentality; such as hormones, chemicals & physical mechanisms for reproduction dictate mental behaviour. Those physical organs communicate; i.e., respond to neural & other messages. Are you are believer of "free-will"? Do you believe organisms "choose" to have lust or be angry or get sad or be frightened? To you believe in the questionable translation of "volitional formations" for the 2nd link of Dependent Origination? :shrug:
Do you believe that there can be non-physical existence?
ye dhammā hetuppabhavā tesaṁ hetuṁ tathāgato āha,
tesaṃca yo nirodho - evaṁvādī mahāsamaṇo.

Of those phenomena which arise from causes:
Those causes have been taught by the Tathāgata,
And their cessation too - thus proclaims the Great Ascetic.

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