That's kind of my point.tiltbillings wrote:
No news is no news.
-M
p.s.
Hmm, me thinks not enough people know the Taoist Farmer story.
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That's kind of my point.tiltbillings wrote:
No news is no news.
Yeah, well, no news, which also kind of sort of in a way tells us something. Happy waiting.meindzai wrote:That's kind of my pointtiltbillings wrote:
No news is no news.
christopher::: wrote:Any New Year updates? Does anyone know if the idea of rebooting E-S with membership intact (but data lost) has been considered by Leo and other admins?
As far as I know yes, that has been considered by Leo and it's not surprising, since with a database beyond the point of a possible recovery (I don't know if that's the case, though) it will be the only choice left if we want to see ES as a forum back online. As I said previously, I doubt that this will be anytime soon, but I have no doubts that Leo is working to bring it back.Well, i'll restate my earlier question, specifically to former E-S moderators who are currently members here...Does anyone know if the idea of rebooting E-S with membership intact (but data lost) has been considered by Leo
Oh! Thank you!christopher::: wrote:Hi Annabel. I think he's saying E-Sangha is probably history.
Phew... And I was questioning my understanding.tiltbillings wrote: it is not the most grammatically graceful sentence I have written.
Oh...Basically, E-Sangha is kaputt. Or so it would seem.
Perhaps. But wasn't there a vow?If the membership-base files are intact, but the data base irretrievably corrupt, there would be no reason not to re-start it, given the large user base and the large number of people who liked E-Sangha as a place to talk. The fact that Leo's "Buddhisty Community" is being poorly moderated, allowing a lot of negativity to flourish and that E-Sangha has not been re-started with the intact membership-base files, suggests that Leo's heart is not in this anymore, but those are just observations from afar and could be totally wrong.
Yes... it's quite possible though that with all the headaches the online world has given him of late (e.g. the hacking of E-Sangha, Jundo Cohen's threats of legal action, the inundation of Buddhist Community by trolls, persistent criticism of E-Sangha and its administration), he might instead choose to use more conventional means of propagating the Dhamma such as contributing to the publication of Dhamma books, supporting local temples etc. Who could blame him, really?Annabel wrote:Perhaps. But wasn't there a vow?
Oh, I see. Well, I am very grateful to E-Sangha since it was the first board that helped me to orientate myself in this swamp of buddhist opinions, papers, traditions, views etc. I don't remember when I joined E-Sangha (around 2006-7?) where I had been lurking until last year (and where I was directed here, as a matter of fact (and for which I am grateful, too)).retrofuturist wrote: Yes... it's quite possible though that with all the headaches the online world has given him of late (e.g. the hacking of E-Sangha, Jundo Cohen's threats of legal action, the inundation of Buddhist Community by trolls, persistent criticism of E-Sangha and its administration), he might instead choose to use more conventional means of propagating the Dhamma such as contributing to the publication of Dhamma books, supporting local temples etc. Who could blame him, really?
Thank you Andreas.Andreas Ludwig wrote:Christopher,
As far as I know yes, that has been considered by Leo and it's not surprising, since with a database beyond the point of a possible recovery (I don't know if that's the case, though) it will be the only choice left if we want to see ES as a forum back online. As I said previously, I doubt that this will be anytime soon, but I have no doubts that Leo is working to bring it back.Well, i'll restate my earlier question, specifically to former E-S moderators who are currently members here...Does anyone know if the idea of rebooting E-S with membership intact (but data lost) has been considered by Leo
Gassho
Andreas
It's not that expensive to put a website up, depending on how it's done.Monkey Mind wrote:So, this is what I keep coming back to, in a confused daze. Leo is PAYING money for Buddhist Community. So why abandon it? Is he unbelievably wealthy?
Vardali wrote:Oh, I see. Well, I am very grateful to E-Sangha since it was the first board that helped me to orientate myself in this swamp of buddhist opinions, papers, traditions, views etc. I don't remember when I joined E-Sangha (around 2006-7?) where I had been lurking until last year (and where I was directed here, as a matter of fact (and for which I am grateful, too)).retrofuturist wrote: Yes... it's quite possible though that with all the headaches the online world has given him of late (e.g. the hacking of E-Sangha, Jundo Cohen's threats of legal action, the inundation of Buddhist Community by trolls, persistent criticism of E-Sangha and its administration), he might instead choose to use more conventional means of propagating the Dhamma such as contributing to the publication of Dhamma books, supporting local temples etc. Who could blame him, really?
There might have been some upsides and downsides to E-Sangha, but personaly speaking, it has been a good "beginners lighthouse", so if indeed it is either irretrievable or the owner is too discourage to rebuild it, R.I.P, E-Sangha, you did open doors, indeed ...
PS: Apologies for bad grammar, I am kind of tired and the sentences seem to get jumbled in my brain.
Jumbled, is this even an existing word?!
Me too. I learned a lot there.msmedusa wrote: Hi
A great big 'ditto' to Vardali from me too! E-Sangha was my stepping stone too.
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Despite all the problems I for one am sad to see the end of the E-Sangha era.