Taking the plunge

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by Dhammabodhi » Wed Jan 06, 2010 6:44 pm

Whatever the outcome, deep bows to you for taking the plunge. :anjali:

Try to maintain your upekkha, which from your other posts I think you have in copious amounts , and u'll do fine wherever you go. Of course planning and preparation is also important, so do all you can to be well-prepared.

May you find profound and unshakeable peace. :buddha1:

Metta,
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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by appicchato » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:07 pm

Dhammabodhi wrote:...u'll do fine wherever you go.

May you find profound and unshakeable peace. :buddha1:
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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by mikenz66 » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:44 pm

Hi Jack,

If we're going into advice mode, the advice I would give is to not expect anywhere or anyone to be perfect.

I think that this is especially important if you eventually decide to ordain. I'm not sure if you read Kevin's (he had several different screen names including Alexander) posts on E-Sangha about his ordination, and disrobing, in Thailand (a year ago?). I don't know him at all, but my impression was that he really, really, wanted to be somewhere where all the monks had perfect sila, perfect (corresponding with his opinion) view of the Dhamma, and perfect everything else. That's impossible.

Metta
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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by puthujjana » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:37 pm

Sādhu, sādhu, sādhu!

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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by Ben » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:46 pm

My love and good wishes go with you Jack!
May you be successful in your noble endeavours!
metta

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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by AdvaitaJ » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:26 am

Your courage and resolve are both impressive and inspiring.
:anjali:

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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by DNS » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:53 am

Congratulations ! ! !

I :heart: Sri Lanka

Most of my teachers are from Sri Lanka or have lived in Sri Lanka as monks or nuns

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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by BlackBird » Thu Jan 07, 2010 4:37 am

Thank you all so very much for your kind inspiring words, your caution and your heartfelt and meaningful advice.

Much metta
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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by Chula » Thu Jan 07, 2010 12:35 pm

All the best Jack! It's inspiring to read what you're doing..

About Sri Lanka, I've heard good things about all three of the monasteries you plan to visit.. I used to go to Mītirigala with my family every year when I was a kid for dāna. I've heard it's quite disorganized now though.

You might want to check out one of a branch of monasteries called Mahamevnāwa (name is harkening back to the golden Anurādhapura age) that I've found quite impressive. They keep to the Vinaya strictly and focus on the Dhamma-Vinaya (and not the Abhidhamma and Atthakatā) - which is something of an anomaly in Sri Lanka. The head monk Kiribathgoda Ñāṇānanda has almost completely translated the Suttapiṭaka to readable Sinhala (the Buddha Jayanti translation was done in the 1950s and is less readable than the Pāḷi since it was done to show "the grandness of the Sinhala language"). These days a lot of young university students are ordaining - there's a training facility in Mātara with over 100+ monks. In all, there are 500+ monks in the tradition.

There are 40+ branches around the country and internationally with headquarters in Polgahawela. You can find more info here:
http://www.buddhavision.com/Mahamewnawa_m_centers.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hope this helps and feel free to PM me if you have any questions about Sri Lanka (I also have plans to go back sometime this year).

Metta
BlackBird wrote: When I arrive in Sri Lanka there are three monasteries I would like to stay at to begin with:
- Na Uyana.
- Mitirigala Nissarana Vanaya (for the Rains retreat, have talked it over with Ven. Dhammajiva Thero).
- Potgulgala (Where Ven. K. Nyanananda thero resides).

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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by BlackBird » Fri Jan 08, 2010 6:46 am

Hey thanks Chula! Sounds good, I'll put it on my list.

metta
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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by suanck » Fri Jan 08, 2010 7:30 am

Sadhu sadhu Sadhu!

I did a pilgrimage tour in Sri Lanka in 2006, visited all major Buddhist historical sites, and I'm very impressed!

Suan.

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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by cooran » Fri Jan 08, 2010 9:08 am

Hello Jack,

Bhante Dhammasiha, Abbot of Dhammagiri, first ordained in Sri Lanka (he came across the Dhammapada when doing research for his PhD in India - he is German).

"He ordained as a Theravada Buddhist monk in Sri Lanka in June 1995, with most Ven. Paṇḍita K. Sri Jinavaṃsa as preceptor. For three years he trained at Nissaraṇa Vana, Meetirigala in Sri Lanka, a forest monastery dedicated to solitary practice of meditation, and meticulous observance of the Theravada Vinaya. His approach to practice was guided by the Suttas of the Pali Canon, and by the example of senior monks like Ven. Ñāṇavimala, Ven. Ñāṇadīpa and Ven. Bhikkhu Bodhi."

And Bhikkhu Samahita is in Sri Lanka - maybe worth consulting.

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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by yuuki » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:48 am

This is incredibly inspiring to me.

Thank you!

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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by shjohnk » Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:09 am

Hi jack,

Sadhu to you! What an inspiring step! May you make tremendous progress on the path!
I think you have received some great advice here. I only want to add: I think you SHOULD have a go at Sinhala - It will help you understand the culture much better if you can speak the language. It will also enable you to learn Pali much easier. You'll also be accepted more there.
I look forward to hearing more about your preparations in the coming months :bow:

John

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Re: Taking the plunge

Post by appicchato » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:29 pm

cooran wrote:And Bhikkhu Samahita is in Sri Lanka - maybe worth consulting.
Excellent idea Jack...if I were asked...

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