Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by JeffR » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:34 pm

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Yes, you are correct. The details are disputed. The film, and the commentary on the DVD are fascinating. I saw the movie as a teenager when it came out and it is still an amazing slice from the period.


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Haven't watched the DVD, saw the movie sometime around 1978 on cable when cable was new and actually worth paying for (good programming and no commercials) at a freinds apartment. I found some parts of the concert footage disturbing; I attended many concerts in those days and there is an ambiance of togetherness and shared ephoria at them. Thanks to the presence of Hell's Angels as security at Altimont, it was completely the opposite. I was most disturbed during Jefferson Airplane's performance and what was going on.
Therein what are 'six (types of) disrespect'? One dwells without respect, without deference for the Teacher; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Teaching; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Order; one dwells without respect, without deference for the precepts; one dwells without respect, without deference for heedfulness; one dwells without respect, without deference for hospitality. These are six (types of) disrespect.
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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by chownah » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:53 am

Why don't people have to announce which country altimont is in?
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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by DNS » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:11 pm

I updated my profile info to include what country I live in.

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by Coëmgenu » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:34 pm

Sam Vara wrote:
Mon Mar 05, 2018 12:21 pm
I'm thinking of moving here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California,_Berkshire

- just to confuse people!
I live next to a very small hamlet.

Brazil, Canada.
世尊在靈山會上拈華示眾眾皆默然唯迦葉破顏微笑世尊云
The Lord dwelt at the Vulture Peak with the assembly and plucked a flower as a teaching. The myriad totality were silent, save for Kāśyapa, whose face cracked in a faint smile. The Lord spoke.
吾有正法眼藏涅槃妙心實相無相微妙法門不立文字教外別傳付囑摩訶迦葉。
I have the treasure of the true dharma eye, I have nirvāṇa as wondrous citta, I know signless dharmatā, the subtle dharma-gate, which is not standing on written word, which is external to scriptures, which is a special dispensation, which is entrusted to Mahākāśyapa.

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by JeffR » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:09 pm

DNS wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:11 pm
I updated my profile info to include what country I live in.
I've updated mine to show what nation I live in.
Therein what are 'six (types of) disrespect'? One dwells without respect, without deference for the Teacher; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Teaching; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Order; one dwells without respect, without deference for the precepts; one dwells without respect, without deference for heedfulness; one dwells without respect, without deference for hospitality. These are six (types of) disrespect.
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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by mikenz66 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:57 pm

JeffR wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:09 pm
I've updated mine to show what nation I live in.
Appreciate the nation name... Reminded me to add the Māori term for my country.

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by DNS » Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:54 pm

JeffR wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:09 pm
DNS wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:11 pm
I updated my profile info to include what country I live in.
I've updated mine to show what nation I live in.
Cool, looks like we started a trend. :thumbsup:

We've had some native american tribes around here too, Anasazi, Paiute, and Shoshone nations, but mostly Spanish and Mexican travelers and settlers.

Las Vegas is Spanish for "The Meadows" and Nevada is Spanish for "snow-covered."

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by Sam Vara » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:34 pm

DNS wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 7:54 pm


Cool, looks like we started a trend. :thumbsup:

We've had some native american tribes around here too, Anasazi, Paiute, and Shoshone nations, but mostly Spanish and Mexican travelers and settlers.

Las Vegas is Spanish for "The Meadows" and Nevada is Spanish for "snow-covered."
Where I live - Sussex - derives its name from the Old English term Sūþsēaxe, which means the place of the South Saxons. Before them were the Romans, and before them a tribe known as the Atrebates, and before them were various waves of invaders who left no record of their names.

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by JeffR » Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:55 am

"Minnesota" is a Lakota name; although half of what is now Minnesota and the majority of Lakota Minnesota is Anishanabe nation.

Lot of Lakota names in the area; the city I live in takes it's name from a well known local lake; Minnetonka. Minneapolis is a combination of Lakota and greek. "Minne" translated to English, like many Pali words, will depend on context.
Minnesota = Land of sky tinted waters.
Minnetonka = Great waters (Lakota "Tonka" is equivalent to Pali "Maha").
Minneapolis = City of lakes.

Then there is "Minnehaha". Can you guess the English?
It's the name of the creek that drains lake Minnetonka into the great river (Mississippi), the name has been given to other's as well, including a Lakota maiden who I hear is the subject, along with Hiawatha, of a famous poem. Laughing waters.

Lot of other Lakota names, but I don't know their English meaning.
Therein what are 'six (types of) disrespect'? One dwells without respect, without deference for the Teacher; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Teaching; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Order; one dwells without respect, without deference for the precepts; one dwells without respect, without deference for heedfulness; one dwells without respect, without deference for hospitality. These are six (types of) disrespect.
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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by Mkoll » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:04 am

Polar Bear wrote:
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If somebody has never heard of California and has no idea where it is they also probably don't have internet access. Also, I identify more as a Californian than an American. I'd almost consider voting to secede from the union but I'd be concerned about the fate of the world if the US was not at all kept in check by the Bear Republic.


(P.S. Now that I think about it, I may change my location to be Bear Republic, because it would work with my avatar and be accurate but obscure, hence also funny)

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If we secede I vote for adopting this flag.

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by chownah » Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:25 am

JeffR wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 3:55 am
"Minnesota" is a Lakota name; although half of what is now Minnesota and the majority of Lakota Minnesota is Anishanabe nation.

Lot of Lakota names in the area; the city I live in takes it's name from a well known local lake; Minnetonka. Minneapolis is a combination of Lakota and greek. "Minne" translated to English, like many Pali words, will depend on context.
Minnesota = Land of sky tinted waters.
Minnetonka = Great waters (Lakota "Tonka" is equivalent to Pali "Maha").
Minneapolis = City of lakes.

Then there is "Minnehaha". Can you guess the English?
It's the name of the creek that drains lake Minnetonka into the great river (Mississippi), the name has been given to other's as well, including a Lakota maiden who I hear is the subject, along with Hiawatha, of a famous poem. Laughing waters.

Lot of other Lakota names, but I don't know their English meaning.
There is a town in minnesota, united states of america named "sleepy eye, minnesota, united states of america. Its name is taken from lakota....do you know the lakota for "sleepy eye"?
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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by Dinsdale » Tue Mar 20, 2018 9:34 am

Coëmgenu wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:34 pm
Brazil, Canada.
Here is a song about lumberjacks especially for you. :tongue:

Buddha save me from new-agers!

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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by JeffR » Tue Mar 20, 2018 5:39 pm

chownah wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:25 am

There is a town in minnesota, united states of america named "sleepy eye, minnesota, united states of america. Its name is taken from lakota....do you know the lakota for "sleepy eye"?
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I know of 'Sleepy Eye', it is a very small town and I have been there. I haven't heard before that Sleepy Eye was taken from Lakota and, I'm sorry to say, I don't know the Lakota. It is located in a heavily German part of Minnesota, just West of New Ulm.

I once came across an Anishanabe - English dictionary in a book store; now I'm wondering if there is a Lakota - English one I can check out from the library (I doubt anyone would have put it online).

Edit Add: There is an English - Lakota dictionary online!
https://glosbe.com/en/lkt
Sleepy Eye = ištíŋmA ištá
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Therein what are 'six (types of) disrespect'? One dwells without respect, without deference for the Teacher; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Teaching; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Order; one dwells without respect, without deference for the precepts; one dwells without respect, without deference for heedfulness; one dwells without respect, without deference for hospitality. These are six (types of) disrespect.
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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by JeffR » Tue Mar 20, 2018 6:27 pm

Mkoll wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:04 am
Polar Bear wrote:
Tue Mar 06, 2018 3:46 am
..., I identify more as a Californian than an American. I'd almost consider voting to secede from the union but I'd be concerned about the fate of the world if the US was not at all kept in check by the Bear Republic.
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If we secede I vote for adopting this flag.

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I have similar feelings; I don't identify as 'American' so much as I do Minnesotan. I learned quickly when traveling abroad that there are stereotypes of 'American', most of which do not apply. However, the Minnesotan ones generally do.

If Minnesota secedes; although they may not go broke, all of our neighboring states will lose a lot of income (no more cheeseheads crossing the border for emplyoment, etc.).

Actually, I'd rather we be annexed by Canada. Then I can whole heartedly sing the lumberjack song.
Therein what are 'six (types of) disrespect'? One dwells without respect, without deference for the Teacher; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Teaching; one dwells without respect, without deference for the Order; one dwells without respect, without deference for the precepts; one dwells without respect, without deference for heedfulness; one dwells without respect, without deference for hospitality. These are six (types of) disrespect.
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Re: Why do Americans not have to announce which country they are from?

Post by Polar Bear » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:53 pm

Mkoll wrote:
Tue Mar 20, 2018 4:04 am

If we secede I vote for adopting this flag.

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I’ll second that
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"I don't envision a single thing that, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about such suffering & stress as the mind. The mind, when undeveloped & uncultivated, brings about suffering & stress."

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