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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by DNS » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:32 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 am
At my temple we were taught basics, and many of the ideas central to my teaching, such as reincarnation, can't even be discussed positively on this forum, because the conservative members want to tell us its only their way.
Since when is rebirth a liberal idea and rebirth-skepticism a conservative idea? I think you have it backwards. Rebirth is generally considered to be paramount to the Buddha's teachings and the Dhamma and as far as we can tell, all early Buddhists believed in / accepted literal rebirth, which would make it conservative and modern ideas being highly skeptical of it would be liberal, in Buddhist terms.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by SarathW » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am

No_Mind wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:47 am
While I welcome that Sam is the new moderator .. maybe DW needs some diversity in its 9th year .. an Asian mod (Sarath possibly .. he almost lives here .. might as well mod while he is here) .. maybe a female mod (unless there already is one .. I do not think so ..) .. a black mod maybe (unless there already is one)

Just a suggestion.

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Hi No-mind
Thank you for nominating me as a moderator.
Yes, DW is my temple and I spent lot of hours her.
Now you are trying to ordain me here as a monk.
:jumping: :D
By the way why do you think we need diversity in DW?
Have you ever encountered for the necessity for that.
I never felt that I was discriminated here because I am a black or Asian.
However, I remember some request from females for some representation.

The request for diversity and representation (women etc.) is a damaging trend.
This is a sign that we are living in morally bankrupt society.
What do you mean by diversity.
Do we need at least one black, one Indian , one Chinees or one of all LGBTQ?? etc.
What about the blind, deaf, short and fat people.

However I made a request to Sutta Central to have a male moderator, as it appears to me the forum is dominated with only women's issues.
The discussion about women are heavily censored and people are frightened make their opinion.
However, I have not seen such problem in DW.
I can remember I made few posts about Jews and thought that I will receive some negative reaction from David.
But I found he is always the same cool guy.
I found other moderators are basically the same.

Anyway thank you again and I hope you take this comment in good spirit.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Mr Man » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 am

Hi SarathW
SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am
The request for diversity and representation (women etc.) is a damaging trend.
This is a sign that we are living in morally bankrupt society.
Why do you say this SarathW?
SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am
The discussion about women are heavily censored and people are frightened make their opinion.
I guess we must tread carfully here as we need to remain within the Terms of Service of Dhamma Wheel (Badmouthing Buddhist discussion forums) but why do you say the "discussion about women are heavily censored". The furum is certainly moderated but "heavily censored"? And who is "frightened make their opinion"?

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Pseudobabble » Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:28 am

Mr Man wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 am
Hi SarathW
SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am
The request for diversity and representation (women etc.) is a damaging trend.
This is a sign that we are living in morally bankrupt society.
Why do you say this SarathW?
I'd guess its because the request for identity-group representation presupposes a significant division between identity-groups, on the basis that identification with one's specific identity-group supersedes ones one's identification with the wider group which contains other identity-groups. Ie, it is a result of, and contributor to, division between people.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by SarathW » Wed Jan 17, 2018 9:58 am

Pseudobabble wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:28 am
Mr Man wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 am
Hi SarathW
SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am
The request for diversity and representation (women etc.) is a damaging trend.
This is a sign that we are living in morally bankrupt society.
Why do you say this SarathW?
I'd guess its because the request for identity-group representation presupposes a significant division between identity-groups, on the basis that identification with one's specific identity-group supersedes ones one's identification with the wider group which contains other identity-groups. Ie, it is a result of, and contributor to, division between people.
I am glad you understand it.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by SarathW » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:04 am

Mr Man wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 am
Hi SarathW
SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am
The request for diversity and representation (women etc.) is a damaging trend.
This is a sign that we are living in morally bankrupt society.
Why do you say this SarathW?
SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am
The discussion about women are heavily censored and people are frightened to make their opinion.
I guess we must tread carfully here as we need to remain within the Terms of Service of Dhamma Wheel (Badmouthing Buddhist discussion forums) but why do you say the "discussion about women are heavily censored". The furum is certainly moderated but "heavily censored"? And who is "frightened make their opinion"?
What I am saying is try to point out the problem without trying to make it to a gender or color issue etc.
I am all for people fighting for a fair go. But highlight the discrimination not the division.
For instance, can someone tell me what is the problem of present moderators in DW.
I am not trying to defend the moderators here, but I fail to see the problem.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Cittasanto » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:46 am

SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:04 am
but I fail to see the problem.
Me too.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:49 am

The right wing posters never see a problem with the moderation.....
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Pseudobabble » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:36 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:49 am
The right wing posters never see a problem with the moderation.....
What's the problem Lyndon?
"Does Master Gotama have any position at all?"

"A 'position,' Vaccha, is something that a Tathagata has done away with. What a Tathagata sees is this: 'Such is form, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is feeling, such its origination, such its disappearance; such is perception...such are fabrications...such is consciousness, such its origination, such its disappearance.'" - Aggi-Vacchagotta Sutta


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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by No_Mind » Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:48 pm

SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am

By the way why do you think we need diversity in DW?
Have you ever encountered for the necessity for that.
I never felt that I was discriminated here because I am a black or Asian.
Hi Sarath. I wrote the OP as a bit of a joke. Not seriously at all. But it became a huge topic of discussion much to my surprise :lol:

I was unfairly punished by DW Mod/Admin for not being liberal enough previously. Not by Paul.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Cittasanto » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:11 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:49 am
The right wing posters never see a problem with the moderation.....
Firstly I'm not right wing.
Secondly you haven't spelt out any actual issues.
Blog, Suttas, Aj Chah, Facebook.

He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Goofaholix » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:15 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:49 am
The right wing posters never see a problem with the moderation.....
Isn't that to be expected though, the liberalism is for progressive change, conservatism for preserving the status quo.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Mr Man » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:29 pm

SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:04 am
Mr Man wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 8:03 am
Hi SarathW
SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am
The request for diversity and representation (women etc.) is a damaging trend.
This is a sign that we are living in morally bankrupt society.
Why do you say this SarathW?
SarathW wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:30 am
The discussion about women are heavily censored and people are frightened to make their opinion.
I guess we must tread carfully here as we need to remain within the Terms of Service of Dhamma Wheel (Badmouthing Buddhist discussion forums) but why do you say the "discussion about women are heavily censored". The furum is certainly moderated but "heavily censored"? And who is "frightened make their opinion"?
What I am saying is try to point out the problem without trying to make it to a gender or color issue etc.
I am all for people fighting for a fair go. But highlight the discrimination not the division.
For instance, can someone tell me what is the problem of present moderators in DW.
I am not trying to defend the moderators here, but I fail to see the problem.
Hi SarathW
I presumed the comment, in bold, above went beyond the boundary of this forum.

If there is a problem with sexism gender is relevant. If there is a problem of racism colour is relevant. If there is a problem of political bias then political viewpoint is relevant.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Mr Man » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:32 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:48 pm

I was unfairly punished by DW Mod/Admin for not being liberal enough previously.
Hi No_Mind

You were punished for not being liberal enough? What do you mean?

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:11 pm

Pseudobabble wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 12:36 pm
lyndon taylor wrote:
Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:49 am
The right wing posters never see a problem with the moderation.....
What's the problem Lyndon?
Have you noticed left wing posters like L.N. and Alan disappearing from the forum, I don't think that's a coincidence.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

http://trickleupeconomictheory.blogspot.com/

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