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Re: Diversity among mods

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Coëmgenu » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:45 am

No_Mind wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:47 am
maybe DW needs some diversity
This is a scary trigger word for many people: diversity.
世尊在靈山會上拈華示眾眾皆默然唯迦葉破顏微笑世尊云
The Lord dwelt at the Vulture Peak with the assembly and plucked a flower as a teaching. The myriad totality were silent, save for Kāśyapa, whose face cracked in a faint smile. The Lord spoke.
吾有正法眼藏涅槃妙心實相無相微妙法門不立文字教外別傳付囑摩訶迦葉。
I have the treasure of the true dharma eye, I have nirvāṇa as wondrous citta, I know signless dharmatā, the subtle dharma-gate, which is not standing on written word, which is external to scriptures, which is a special dispensation, which is entrusted to Mahākāśyapa.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 am

What's scary is we have a Buddhist forum, which traditionally in the West has been supported by liberal patrons, where most of the moderation decisions are made by conservatives, some very much so, that's not just political, its also goes into the interpretations of Buddhist Philosophy, and as a long time Buddhist I would have to say the the Buddhism espoused mostly on this forum is quite on the conservative side, sutta thumping, I call it. At my temple we were taught basics, and many of the ideas central to my teaching, such as reincarnation, can't even be discussed positively on this forum, because the conservative members want to tell us its only their way. I think in the future perhaps coming across as conservative should not be seen as a prerequisite for moderating. I would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm. just saying IMHO
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Pseudobabble » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:54 am

If diversity were an unqualified good, then it's addition would improve every circumstance characterised by it's absence.

If that were the case, then a diverse gang of murderers would somehow be 'better' than a homogeneous gang, by virtue of being 'diverse'. Which is obviously bollocks.
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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Tue Jan 16, 2018 7:59 am

Well an exclusively white? Western group of Buddhists could greatly learn from the majority of Therevada Buddhists who are overwhelmingly brown and Asian, if that is what you call diversity, I'm all for it!!
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by retrofuturist » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:12 am

Greetings Lyndon,
Well an exclusively white? Western group of Buddhists could greatly learn from the majority of Therevada Buddhists who are overwhelmingly brown and Asian
Out of interest... do you recognise any of the following people?

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Metta,
Paul. :)
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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:41 am

not members of this forum????
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:44 am

This forum has strong connections to original Asian teachers, but almost exclusively the Forest tradition which is just one of many many Asian and South East Asian traditions, its almost like the Buddhist version Of Mormonism or Jehovah' Witnesses for Christianity.
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by binocular » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:56 am

lyndon taylor wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 8:44 am
This forum has strong connections to original Asian teachers, but almost exclusively the Forest tradition which is just one of many many Asian and South East Asian traditions, its almost like the Buddhist version Of Mormonism or Jehovah' Witnesses for Christianity.
All the others are welcome to join!

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by binocular » Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:58 am

lyndon taylor wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 am
I would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm.
It could be that it's precisely because they are "simple" that they don't get involved with complex environments such as this one.
Nobody's fault.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by Meezer77 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 12:01 pm

Coëmgenu wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:45 am
No_Mind wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:47 am
maybe DW needs some diversity
This is a scary trigger word for many people: diversity.
How so?

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by lyndon taylor » Tue Jan 16, 2018 1:52 pm

binocular wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 11:58 am
lyndon taylor wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 am
I would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm.
It could be that it's precisely because they are "simple" that they don't get involved with complex environments such as this one.
Nobody's fault.
Its sad that you see it that way, and reflects how some people are not made welcome, the Dhamma at its heart is quite simple
18 years ago I made one of the most important decisions of my life and entered a local Cambodian Buddhist Temple as a temple boy and, for only 3 weeks, an actual Therevada Buddhist monk. I am not a scholar, great meditator, or authority on Buddhism, but Buddhism is something I love from the Bottom of my heart. It has taught me sobriety, morality, peace, and very importantly that my suffering is optional, and doesn't have to run my life. I hope to give back what little I can to the Buddhist community, sincerely former monk John

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by SDC » Tue Jan 16, 2018 3:54 pm

lyndon taylor wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 am
What's scary is we have a Buddhist forum, which traditionally in the West has been supported by liberal patrons, where most of the moderation decisions are made by conservatives, some very much so, that's not just political, its also goes into the interpretations of Buddhist Philosophy, and as a long time Buddhist I would have to say the the Buddhism espoused mostly on this forum is quite on the conservative side, sutta thumping, I call it. At my temple we were taught basics, and many of the ideas central to my teaching, such as reincarnation, can't even be discussed positively on this forum, because the conservative members want to tell us its only their way. I think in the future perhaps coming across as conservative should not be seen as a prerequisite for moderating. I would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm. just saying IMHO
If you have something to pass on from your Cambodian teachers and would love for their ideas to be here, then step up to the plate and present them. Once upon a time you posted about some of the above and some people disagreed with your interpretation. That is all that happened. I remember the thread. That is just what happens when you have so many different points of view, and it has happened to so many others including myself on multiple occasions. When has Ven. Nanavira ever been spoken about positively on DW? Doesn't mean you have to pack up and quit posting about Dhamma and then blame others for not having a suitable environment. Quite simply, Lyndon, if you have some conviction and confidence, people will heed your words. If you make everything a political or historical Buddhist scandal, it is just more of the same, and you do nothing but sabotage the legitimacy of the ideas you are putting forth. If you want to see more of your sort of Buddhism, then give us more of your sort of Buddhism. Try flicking the chip off your shoulder while your at it and you may find that there are many who want to listen to what you have to say.

Or just keep hovering around political talk and calling out meat eaters. Whatever floats your boat.

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Re: Diversity among mods

Post by ieee23 » Tue Jan 16, 2018 5:55 pm

No_Mind wrote:
Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:47 am
While I welcome that Sam is the new moderator .. maybe DW needs some diversity in its 9th year .. an Asian mod (Sarath possibly .. he almost lives here .. might as well mod while he is here) .. maybe a female mod (unless there already is one .. I do not think so ..) .. a black mod maybe (unless there already is one)
I think the personality of the mod matters far more than the color of their skin or their genitals.
Whatever a bhikkhu frequently thinks and ponders upon, that will become the inclination of his mind. - MN 19

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Re: Diversity among mods

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lyndon taylor wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:48 am
What's scary is we have a Buddhist forum, which traditionally in the West has been supported by liberal patrons, where most of the moderation decisions are made by conservatives, some very much so, that's not just political, its also goes into the interpretations of Buddhist Philosophy, and as a long time Buddhist I would have to say the the Buddhism espoused mostly on this forum is quite on the conservative side, sutta thumping, I call it. At my temple we were taught basics, and many of the ideas central to my teaching, such as reincarnation, can't even be discussed positively on this forum, because the conservative members want to tell us its only their way. I think in the future perhaps coming across as conservative should not be seen as a prerequisite for moderating. I would love for some simple Asian Buddhist monks to be involved, and their ideas not ridiculed as seems to be the norm. just saying IMHO
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