I exempt myself from the instruction.
I do _not_ want to be that someone else at whose expense someone indulges in their hauteur and prissiness!
I exempt myself from the venerable's instruction. I'm sure many others do so too.
I exempt myself from the instruction.
Where is that post? I have done a google site search for it and can't find it. Was it even ever here at all? I can't find in cache of any search. Please post a link to that post.
Thanks, those have been removed.binocular wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 5:25 pmviewtopic.php?t=4713#p72249
and quoted in subsequent posts.
Unless you know something about the inner workings of the poll that is not shown on screen it seems pretty clear that 15 out of 85 people think that "You are too pig-headed to listen." is a comment that might reasonably be taken personally by someone else.L.N. wrote: ↑Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:31 am[Actually it's not 17% of respondents. There are 10 comments, and each is allocated a percentage of the total vote. The total percent is 100%. If a comment gets 17%, then that indicates it is more commonly viewed as a comment which could reasonably be taken personally. It does not mean 17% of respondents think the comment is "personal."
Kinti Sutta (MN 103) wrote: While you are training in concord, with mutual appreciation, without disputing, some bhikkhu might commit an offence or a transgression.
Now, bhikkhus, you should not hurry to reprove him; rather, the person should be examined thus:
‘I shall be troubled and the other person will be hurt; for the other person is given to anger and resentment, and he is firmly attached to his view and he relinquishes with difficulty; and I cannot make that person emerge from the unwholesome and establish him in the wholesome.’ One should not underrate equanimity towards such a person.
While you are training in concord, with mutual appreciation, without disputing, there might arise mutual verbal friction, insolence in views, mental annoyance, bitterness, and dejection. Then whichever bhikkhu you think is the most reasonable of those who side together on the one part should be approached and addressed thus: ‘While we were training in concord, friend, with mutual appreciation, without disputing, there arose mutual verbal friction, insolence in views, mental annoyance, bitterness, and dejection. If the Recluse knew, would he censure that?’ Answering rightly, the bhikkhu would answer thus: ‘[...] If the Recluse knew, he would censure that.’
‘But, friend, without abandoning that thing, can one realise Nibbāna?’ Answering rightly, the bhikkhu would answer thus: ‘Friend, without abandoning that thing, one cannot realise Nibbāna.’
I see now, 85 votes means 85 ticks not 85 people. So there is no way of knowing how many people left checkboxes unticked, though I guess we could assume 18 people voted and 100% ticked the most offensive one, even so 18 people is a measure of disinterest I think.
I don't disagree. I think it's a question of where to draw the line.
I may be wrong, but I think the "total number of votes" is not the same as the number of people who participated. For example, I believe I cast 4 or 5 votes. I estimate that perhaps 20 or so people have participated, but I don't think the poll lets us see how many people have participated, just how many total votes have been cast.
I personally don't care for the drama that has surrounded it. The poll is intended to illustrate how various different comments may reasonably be taken personally. The ones with the highest number of votes probably have been selected by a majority of individuals who have cast votes. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable can clarify.As this comment is clearly personal and quite offensive I think it's reasonable conclude that most of the other 83% of respondents just don't really care for your poll or the drama surrounding it.
Members may have been turned off by the adversarial nature of the discussion. It's fine if people are not interested. The Topic is for those who are interested, and not every Topic will be of interest to everyone.
Correct. In fact there are fewer votes now than there were earlier, as people can change their votes at any time. All the poll does is illustrate how serious different comments might reasonably be taken personally.
Circling back on this, I believe you have asserted a false statement here. I specifically asked a moderator whether I had been the subject of such reporting, and the moderator did not confirm your allegations. Maybe the moderator has never had time to check. But even if such reports have been made, I believe they were unsubstantiated, as I have not been contacted by the Team regarding such alleged reports.
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