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Re: delete the music thread

Post by Sam Vara » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:21 am

Sovatthika wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:14 am
it would seem that having casual (unrelated) topics is unnecessary to say the least. perhaps it is there to contain topics like that from spilling into other parts of the forum?
Something being unnecessary is no reason to get rid of it or curtail it. People like to hang out and chat about politics, life, and suchlike, and they like to share music and other things that make them happy. As unnecessary as politeness, smiles, humour, cups of tea, and hugs.

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by Dinsdale » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:41 am

retrofuturist wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:52 am
The lounge is for casual conversation. If it troubles you so much, by all means start a poll to see if there's support amongst members for burning down the lounge room.
Don't burn it down, put in more facilities - like comfy chairs, draft Guinness and a freezer for the ice-cream. :tongue:
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Re: delete the music thread

Post by Kim OHara » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:54 am

Spiny Norman wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:41 am
retrofuturist wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:52 am
The lounge is for casual conversation. If it troubles you so much, by all means start a poll to see if there's support amongst members for burning down the lounge room.
Don't burn it down, put in more facilities - like comfy chairs, draft Guinness and a freezer for the ice-cream. :tongue:
And a pool table?
Please?

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by Dinsdale » Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:58 am

Kim OHara wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:54 am
Spiny Norman wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:41 am
retrofuturist wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:52 am
The lounge is for casual conversation. If it troubles you so much, by all means start a poll to see if there's support amongst members for burning down the lounge room.
Don't burn it down, put in more facilities - like comfy chairs, draft Guinness and a freezer for the ice-cream. :tongue:
And a pool table?
Please?

:coffee:
Kim
And yoga classes with baby goats? :toast:

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by aflatun » Tue Oct 10, 2017 1:14 pm

Spiny Norman wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:58 am
Kim OHara wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:54 am
Spiny Norman wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 11:41 am


Don't burn it down, put in more facilities - like comfy chairs, draft Guinness and a freezer for the ice-cream. :tongue:
And a pool table?
Please?

:coffee:
Kim
And yoga classes with baby goats? :toast:

:rofl: They're so cute! I'm sure they love Guinness, ice cream and music too :tongue:
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Senses and the Thought-1, 42:53

"Those who create constructs about the Buddha,
Who is beyond construction and without exhaustion,
Are thereby damaged by their constructs;
They fail to see the Thus-Gone.

That which is the nature of the Thus-Gone
Is also the nature of this world.
There is no nature of the Thus-Gone.
There is no nature of the world."

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Re: delete the music thread

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by DNS » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:13 pm

Why would you search for 'music' if you're not interested in music. :rolleye:

Unless you're looking for specifically Buddhist music, which can be done by specifying that in your search. Members here have found that searching through google works better:

site:dhammawheel.com your search terms here

I'm not a big fan of music and don't like dancing (10 seconds and I'll be late for the door), but I would never impose my preferences on others. Let them do what they like and one can choose which threads to read and participate in.

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by binocular » Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:33 pm

Sovatthika wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 9:41 am
i think having a subforum that is inherently unrelated to buddhism may weaken the discourse
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Seriously -- I agree with you, and there is a lot to say about having and being a companion in ruinous fun. But there is no obligation that one must be a serious Buddhist practitioner, or that one must practice 24/7, so there's a lot of possibilities ...

Basically, I think what perhaps should be examined in regards to this topic is acceptance or tolerance for the variety of degrees of commitment to the Buddhist path, and the various interpretations of Buddhist practice and how to wisely relate to all this variety.

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by Dhammarakkhito » Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:49 pm

DNS wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:13 pm
Why would you search for 'music' if you're not interested in music. :rolleye:

I would never impose my preferences on others. Let them do what they like and one can choose which threads to read and participate in.
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Re: delete the music thread

Post by SDC » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:08 pm

Sovatthika wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 6:49 pm
DNS wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 4:13 pm
Why would you search for 'music' if you're not interested in music. :rolleye:

I would never impose my preferences on others. Let them do what they like and one can choose which threads to read and participate in.
dhamma about music. i'm not imposing a preference but i'll leave it
I do understand your concern.

Just curious, are you aware of the history of this forum? Did you lurk for a period of time prior to joining? The reason we have sections that are not explicitly Dhammic is to prevent those more worldly topics from cluttering up Dhammic discussions. It was the trend of discussion that brought about that need - the membership was inclined to discuss those things so the staff made the decision to expand to those sections. It did not occur the other way around. In an attempt to close this off this expansion a few years back, the community experienced a very turbulent period and even though we are still far from perfect, allowing members the opportunity to discuss these things on the forum has calmed the waters and served to protect our main purpose of being a place to discuss Theravada Buddhism.

Otherwise you would have rants about Trump and SWJs in threads about dependent origination - I'm not trying to be funny, that is what ended up happening when there was no outlet available. Sure, it would be nice if Buddhists didn't want to discuss those things (I wish that is how it was), but the choice to avoid such discussion is an individual decision. We are not outside of the world, so as long as the membership has the inclination we will be providing a place for it.

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by SDC » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:09 pm

Mkoll wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:00 am
The music thread is probably the only long thread on this forum that doesn't have people getting attached to views and arguing with each other about which is better, provoking, deriding, etc. etc. The music thread is positively wholesome in comparison.

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This is seriously a fact.

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by retrofuturist » Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:20 pm

Greetings,

True, except that topics do not have a mind, and thus cannot have wholesome and unwholesome mind-states.

It's what people bring to a topic that is wholesome or unwholesome, and no one will ever really know the mind-state of a person making a post, other than the person themselves.

This is why we do not try to police people's minds (as indicated by TOS concepts such as "autonomy" and "psychoanalysis") ... only regulating inappropriate forum behaviours.

A subtle distinction perhaps, but one that implies that people should spend more time being mindful of their own mind-states than fretting about the mind-states of others. To do so is a distraction, a projection, and conceptual proliferation.

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by ieee23 » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:35 am

Mkoll wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 7:38 am
You should read this thread.

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=22044

Thing should be a sticky and recommended reading for new members. Might prevent some of the repeated posts about themes that crop up like clockwork.
That idea might work better if it wasn't a restricted forum, I got this message
You are not authorised to read this forum.
Whatever a bhikkhu frequently thinks and ponders upon, that will become the inclination of his mind. - MN 19

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by retrofuturist » Wed Oct 11, 2017 1:49 am

Greetings ieee23,

It's in the "Connections to Other Paths" section which is unrestricted.

Can you try again? I suspect the error message signifies some access/network issue, moreso than controls over forum access.

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"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: delete the music thread

Post by Dinsdale » Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:30 am

SDC wrote:
Tue Oct 10, 2017 10:08 pm
Otherwise you would have rants about Trump and SWJs in threads about dependent origination -
Trump is a dependently arisen phenomenon, and therefore transient and empty. :tongue:
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