Greetings Phena,
Are you falsely accusing me of being Alt-Right.
Metta,
Paul.
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"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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Well you are using the rhetoric of the alt-right, but I have no idea what label you attach to your extreme right position.retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Phena,
Are you falsely accusing me of being Alt-Right.
Metta,
Paul.
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You don't see a connection with politics?retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Mr.Man,
If it were to be moved anywhere it would be to Personal Experience, or possibly Connections To Other Paths.
I would be OK with either if the OP wanted the topic moved to either of those sections. Alternatively, I see no problem where it is... its location does not curtail discussion.
Metta,
Paul.
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Who is to say what is an "extreme right" position? If someone doesn't think that Retro is extreme, how are we to decide who is right?Phena wrote: Well you are using the rhetoric of the alt-right, but I have no idea what label you attach to your extreme right position.
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Paul why do you spread falsehoods?
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From what is evident? What is your political stance Sam?Sam Vara wrote:Who is to say what is an "extreme right" position? If someone doesn't think that Retro is extreme, how are we to decide who is right?Phena wrote: Well you are using the rhetoric of the alt-right, but I have no idea what label you attach to your extreme right position.
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Greetings,
Metta,
Paul.
I don't. Why do you perceive them as such?Mr Man wrote:Paul why do you spread falsehoods?
Metta,
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"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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Because this is not trueretrofuturist wrote:Greetings,
I don't. Why do you perceive them as such?Mr Man wrote:Paul why do you spread falsehoods?
Metta,
Paul.
I guess now that we live in an age where leftists deem anyone to the right of Michael Moore to be either a "white supremacist" or a "Nazi",
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What is "evident" is presumably "evident" to both parties; those who think that Retro is extreme right, and those who don't. So that won't help us decide who is right.Mr Man wrote:From what is evident? What is your political stance Sam?Sam Vara wrote:Who is to say what is an "extreme right" position? If someone doesn't think that Retro is extreme, how are we to decide who is right?Phena wrote: Well you are using the rhetoric of the alt-right, but I have no idea what label you attach to your extreme right position.
Similarly, my political stance is irrelevant to the question I asked. You might as well ask me about my favourite sandwich-filling.
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Well, ultimately what is "extreme" what is "right"? Just language and conventions of the conceptual realm that consciousness is established on.Sam Vara wrote:Who is to say what is an "extreme right" position? If someone doesn't think that Retro is extreme, how are we to decide who is right?Phena wrote: Well you are using the rhetoric of the alt-right, but I have no idea what label you attach to your extreme right position.
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Here is another example of a falsehood
When you look at the world through leftist identitarian lenses, that is what you are bound to see. I am not in the slightest bit surprised... the Satipatthana Sutta says as much
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If the meaning of a term is merely conventional, then how are we to know whether we are using it correctly? Where are the conventions to be found, such that we know whether our use is normal or idiosyncratic?Phena wrote:Well, ultimately what is "extreme" what is "right"? Just language and conventions of the conceptual realm that consciousness is established on.Sam Vara wrote:Who is to say what is an "extreme right" position? If someone doesn't think that Retro is extreme, how are we to decide who is right?Phena wrote: Well you are using the rhetoric of the alt-right, but I have no idea what label you attach to your extreme right position.
My point is that consciousness is established on more than a merely conceptual realm which we happen to find. It is established on a sense of "I" and "mine". What is "extreme" is something which is perceived to be a long way from "me". What is "right wing" is something to the right of "me". I know people - communities of people, with their own conventions of language - who would consider Retro to be extremely right wing, and others who would consider him to be extremely left wing. Who has read the conventions of language correctly, and how do we know that they have?
What is "the rhetoric of the alt-right"?
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Greetings Mr Man,
Thus, my total lack of surprise that Phena framed things as described.
See? No lies. Just a different 'loka', and an awareness that it is so. How could it be otherwise?
That said, your insinuation that I was lying was rather distasteful. The civilized and decent thing to do would be to apologize.
Metta,
Paul.
Not false. How we volitionally frame reality determines 'existence' and what is true to each of us in terms of our subjective experience. When one frames experience through the lens of patriarchy, identity politics, critical race theory and other such frames of reference adopted by those on the left, then experience and understandings will be shaped accordingly.Mr Man wrote:Here is another example of a falsehoodWhen you look at the world through leftist identitarian lenses, that is what you are bound to see. I am not in the slightest bit surprised... the Satipatthana Sutta says as much
Thus, my total lack of surprise that Phena framed things as described.
See? No lies. Just a different 'loka', and an awareness that it is so. How could it be otherwise?
That said, your insinuation that I was lying was rather distasteful. The civilized and decent thing to do would be to apologize.
Metta,
Paul.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."
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The falsehood is making a connection between "Satipatthana Sutta" and "leftist identitarian lenses".retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Mr Man,
Not false.Mr Man wrote:Here is another example of a falsehoodWhen you look at the world through leftist identitarian lenses, that is what you are bound to see. I am not in the slightest bit surprised... the Satipatthana Sutta says as much
This also was a falsehood -
I guess now that we live in an age where leftists deem anyone to the right of Michael Moore to be either a "white supremacist" or a "Nazi"
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Greetings Mr Man,
So, I guess, in the end not only do you violate the Terms of Service by making unsubstantiated accusations against individuals, but instead of apologizing for your misdemeanours, you double down on your aspersions.
Quite sad, really.
Metta,
Paul.
The whole sutta pertains to frames of reference. If you can't fathom that, then how can I help you comprehend it?Mr Man wrote:The falsehood is making a connection between "Satipatthana Sutta" and "leftist identitarian lenses".
So, I guess, in the end not only do you violate the Terms of Service by making unsubstantiated accusations against individuals, but instead of apologizing for your misdemeanours, you double down on your aspersions.
Quite sad, really.
Metta,
Paul.
"Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things."