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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by Buddha Vacana » Wed Sep 13, 2017 8:10 am

cjmacie wrote:
Buddha Vacana wrote:...Anyway, of much greater concern is Trump administration's agitation for nuclear warfare, with backing from the war industry and the mainstream media.
Any documentation for this assertion? (Other than partisan commentators.)
Is there even anything controversial here? Articles from all sides of the establishment offer thinly veiled support and they are not difficult to come by. I suppose you know how to use google news or some other news aggregator, don't you?

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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by pulga » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:06 am

chownah wrote: Just a clarifiction. DACA is about children born outside the US who were brought to the US by their parents who were undocumented immigrants.....and have lived in the US almost all of their lives.
chownah
The mainstream media isn't much reporting the fact that the Texas Attorney General was on the verge of challenging DACA in court. It clearly was unconstitutional and would never have withstood the challenge. President Trump did the right thing in ending the program, delaying its rescindment six months in order to give Congress time to pass legally binding legislation that deals with the issue. U.S. immigration law shouldn't be up to the whim of whoever happens to be President.

DACA lawsuit dropped, Texas AG says

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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by lyndon taylor » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:09 am

I wouldn't think the opinion of the Texas Attorney General as representative of the law of the country at all!!
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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by cjmacie » Wed Sep 13, 2017 11:53 am

Buddha Vacana wrote:... thinly veiled support and they are not difficult to come by...
Oh, so it's not that explicit?
Buddha Vacana wrote:...agitation for nuclear warfare...
Perhaps that too is waffling on the question?
Buddha Vacana wrote:I suppose you know how to use google news or some other news aggregator, don't you?
Double cop-out.

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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by chownah » Wed Sep 13, 2017 12:35 pm

pulga wrote:
chownah wrote: Just a clarifiction. DACA is about children born outside the US who were brought to the US by their parents who were undocumented immigrants.....and have lived in the US almost all of their lives.
chownah
The mainstream media isn't much reporting the fact that the Texas Attorney General was on the verge of challenging DACA in court. It clearly was unconstitutional and would never have withstood the challenge. President Trump did the right thing in ending the program, delaying its rescindment six months in order to give Congress time to pass legally binding legislation that deals with the issue. U.S. immigration law shouldn't be up to the whim of whoever happens to be President.

DACA lawsuit dropped, Texas AG says
I agree with your idea somewhat but not completely. I think it would be much better if congress passed some legislation but I think the most important thing from a humanitarian standpoint is for whoever sees that children brought here and living here all (or mostly all I guess) of their formative years in the usa should be given a direct path to stay....whoever sees that should implement it if they can.....even if it is the janitor.
Warning.....my bias is always for liberal immigration laws.
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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by pulga » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:21 pm

chownah wrote: I agree with your idea somewhat but not completely. I think it would be much better if congress passed some legislation but I think the most important thing from a humanitarian standpoint is for whoever sees that children brought here and living here all (or mostly all I guess) of their formative years in the usa should be given a direct path to stay....whoever sees that should implement it if they can.....even if it is the janitor.
Warning.....my bias is always for liberal immigration laws.
During the campaign Donald Trump's contention against DACA wasn't so much the policy itself, but that it was an act of executive overreach. He has said that if Congress fails to act after six months that he'll step in to resolve the matter. Just from his statements it's apparent that he has a lot of empathy for the immigrants who find themselves in such a dilemma. There are those from the right who complain of jobs being made unavailable to citizens because of DACA, but I haven't heard such talk from the President himself.

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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by chownah » Wed Sep 13, 2017 1:59 pm

He has said that if Congress fails to act after six months that he'll step in to resolve the matter
Whatever that means.....
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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by pulga » Wed Sep 13, 2017 2:24 pm

chownah wrote: Whatever that means.....
Hopefully Congress will do its job and we won't have to wait to find out, though the impression that I get is that he has no intention of simply letting the program expire.

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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by Buddha Vacana » Wed Sep 13, 2017 7:15 pm

Hi cjmacie,

How are you today? Practiced some Metta, by any chance?

Your persistent aggressiveness never ceases to surprise me.
cjmacie wrote:
Buddha Vacana wrote:... thinly veiled support and they are not difficult to come by...
Oh, so it's not that explicit?
Have I ever said it was explicit? Scroll up and look at the expression I used from the beginning, "between the lines".

cjmacie wrote:
Buddha Vacana wrote:...agitation for nuclear warfare...
Perhaps that too is waffling on the question?
The evidence is just a few clicks of the mouse or taps of the fingers away, my friend. I assumed you were grown up enough to find it on your own.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 3326625792



Trump panel said to be pushing for 'mini nukes' to make nuclear strikes easier

Mr. Trump has not spoken of any such reduction, in the number of weapons or the scope of the overhaul, and his warning to North Korea a few weeks ago that he would meet any challenge with “fire and fury” suggested that he may not subscribe to the view of most past presidents that the United States would never use such weapons in a first strike.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/27/us/p ... ml?mcubz=0
So, friend, I will tell you only this once: I won't indulge your sea-lioning any more and will simply ignore your attacks from now on.

Have a nice day, regardless.
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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by chownah » Thu Sep 14, 2017 2:47 am

pulga wrote:
chownah wrote: Whatever that means.....
Hopefully Congress will do its job and we won't have to wait to find out, though the impression that I get is that he has no intention of simply letting the program expire.
If his statement is meant to say that he has no intention of letting it expire then why didn't he just come out and clearly say that?
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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by pulga » Thu Sep 14, 2017 4:03 am

chownah wrote: If his statement is meant to say that he has no intention of letting it expire then why didn't he just come out and clearly say that?
President Trump's way of dealing with the DACA dilemma may not be quite the same as Obama's. I don't know what exacttly he has in mind, but the matter is still weighing on him. Here is a briefing he gave just today. Most of it relates to tax reform, but he also mentions DACA. As for personal income taxes, he has no plans to lower taxes on the rich, and if need be, he will raise them. (This was an idea that Steve Bannon floated about a couple of months ago.)


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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by pulga » Fri Sep 15, 2017 7:53 pm

A nice story from The Washington Post :

Trump lets an 11-year-old boy mow the White House lawn

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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by chownah » Sat Sep 16, 2017 2:57 am

pulga wrote:A nice story from The Washington Post :

Trump lets an 11-year-old boy mow the White House lawn
Yeah. The boy is from Falls Church, VA which is part of the Wasington metropolitan area. According to wikipedia "In 2011, Falls Church was named the richest county in the United States, with a median annual household income of $113,313."

From the article"Giaccio, who works for the U.S. Office of Special Counsel — an agency with oversight over federal employees, not to be confused with special counsel Robert S. Mueller III and the investigation into Russian interference with the 2016 election — declined to say who he supported in the race, citing the Hatch Act. But he said Frank, the oldest of four children, began supporting Trump early in the Republican primary debates."

Very cute.....intentionally very cute. When will we get to see trump petting some kittens?
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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by pulga » Sat Sep 16, 2017 3:47 am

chownah wrote: Very cute.....intentionally very cute. When will we get to see trump petting some kittens?
That would be great.

Remember this is from Bezos's The Washington Post. It went out of its way not only to present a positive story, but to provide all the facts as well.
Frank had previously written to President Barack Obama, Giaccio added, but only got a form letter in response.
Perhaps the President is being rewarded for his recent bipartisanship.

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Re: POTUS 2017

Post by Kim OHara » Sat Oct 28, 2017 12:26 am

Five weeks after hurricane Maria slammed into Puerto Rico, President Donald Trump’s team has only managed to restore power for a mere 26 percent of the island’s 3.5 million U.S. citizens.

Meanwhile the tiny Trump-linked energy contractor that won a $300-million no-bid contract to rebuild the grid, Whitefish Energy, is also under fire.

One businessman, however, has already started to deliver on his promise to help Puerto. Elon Musk has used Tesla’s solar panels and battery storage to turn the power back on San Juan’s Children’s Hospital — and he did it free of charge.

San Juan’s Hospital del Nino serves some 3,000 children on the island, with three dozen critically ill patients who need around-the-clock care.
Rooftop solar keeps the DESI Power's office running in during August’s flood in India. Source: DESI Power
Stunning chart reveals how badly Trump has bungled Puerto Rico’s grid rebuild

Time to let Tesla’s Elon Musk do the job?

In a viral Instagram post, Musk explained, “Hospital del Niño (Children’s Hospital) is the first of many solar+battery Tesla projects going live in Puerto Rico. Glad to help support the recovery. Congrats to the Tesla team for working 24/7 to make this happen as fast as possible.” ...
https://thinkprogress.org/tesla-restore ... 1d79f4db1/

:woohoo: and :clap: Musk, :toilet: Trump.

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