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Post by Cittasanto » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:09 pm

Hi All

I have been looking for a sutta which says (I think it is the Buddha who says it, but may be Ananda?) something along the lines of 'it is by using what we cling to that we remove clinging'

any ideas?
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Post by Chula » Tue Dec 15, 2009 9:20 pm

I think this is what you're referring to:

"This body comes into being through craving. And yet it is by relying on craving that craving is to be abandoned."
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There's also an instance where Ven. Ananda talks with a brahmin who says it's impossible to end desire with desire - Ven. Ananda asks if the brahmin still has the desire to come and meet him now that he's here already to clear that up.

I think there's also a passage where Ven. Dhammadinna says something along these lines (relying on craving to remove craving) to her lay-husband Visakha.

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Post by Cittasanto » Tue Dec 15, 2009 10:04 pm

Chula wrote:I think this is what you're referring to:

"This body comes into being through craving. And yet it is by relying on craving that craving is to be abandoned."
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There's also an instance where Ven. Ananda talks with a brahmin who says it's impossible to end desire with desire - Ven. Ananda asks if the brahmin still has the desire to come and meet him now that he's here already to clear that up.

I think there's also a passage where Ven. Dhammadinna says something along these lines (relying on craving to remove craving) to her lay-husband Visakha.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill

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