Global Warming: Recent Data

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by chownah » Thu Jul 06, 2017 4:13 am

I found this on slashdot:
Japan's population, excluding resident foreigners, fell at the beginning of this year at its fastest pace since comparable figures were kept in 1968
https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/07/0 ... since-1968
I view this as a great victory for not just for its benefits for climate change but also for humanity in general.
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Thu Jul 06, 2017 6:46 am

chownah wrote:I found this on slashdot:
Japan's population, excluding resident foreigners, fell at the beginning of this year at its fastest pace since comparable figures were kept in 1968
https://news.slashdot.org/story/17/07/0 ... since-1968
I view this as a great victory for not just for its benefits for climate change but also for humanity in general.
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Yes, there are too many of us - but how to manage a calm, peaceful decline in population is a problem. That article's first sentence is, "Japan's population, excluding resident foreigners, fell at the beginning of this year at its fastest pace since comparable figures were kept in 1968, highlighting the demographic challenge to economic growth," and, "highlighting the demographic challenge to economic growth," bundles up a lot of important assumptions and hides most of them. The biggest one is that the need for "economic growth" is implicitly unchallengeable, axiomatic, but continuous "economic growth" is a Ponzi scheme. It's unsustainable but stopping it without a crash landing seems impossible. And the "demographic challenge" is not only about how many people but about how many workers and taxpayers. If the Japanese just stopped having children altogether, they would have an again population needing more services and unsupported by taxes or even service workers.
Tricky!

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Phena » Thu Jul 06, 2017 7:34 am

paul wrote:Are the three unwholesome roots the cause of climate change?
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politic ... -1.3295853
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by paul » Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:16 am

Mind precedes all conditions:
“…we must also note that all these other factors influencing the mind are at some level themselves manifestations of mental activity. Thus the other orders of causality affecting the mind— social, economic, cultural and political— can in turn be considered objectifications of mind, embodying and “externalizing” specific attitudes, views, and psychological agendas. For this reason the Buddha says that “all conditions are preceded by the mind, dominated by the mind, fashioned by the mind “, (Dhammapada, vv. 1-2).
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In the Buddha’s teaching, the dark forces of the mind responsible for human suffering are called the defilements (kilesas), of which the most powerful are the three “unwholesome roots”, greed, hatred and delusion.
In its classical expression, the Buddha’s teaching focuses upon the role of the defilements in our personal lives, showing how they are the determinants of psychological and existential suffering. Today, however, as our world has become tightly integrated into a single global order, a shift in emphasis is necessary if we are to analyse and address our common plight. Since institutions and organisations have become ever more influential in moulding our circumstances and determining our destiny, we must closely investigate how the defilements assume a collective expression. We must lay bare the detrimental impact of our economic and political structures and discover how our forms of social organization, both national and international, sustain the grip of greed, hatred and delusion upon our minds.—- “Facing the Future- Four Essays”; ‘A Buddhist Social Ethic for the New Century’, Bikkhu Bodhi.

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:02 am

paul wrote:Mind precedes all conditions:
“…we must also note that all these other factors influencing the mind are at some level themselves manifestations of mental activity. Thus the other orders of causality affecting the mind— social, economic, cultural and political— can in turn be considered objectifications of mind, embodying and “externalizing” specific attitudes, views, and psychological agendas. For this reason the Buddha says that “all conditions are preceded by the mind, dominated by the mind, fashioned by the mind “, (Dhammapada, vv. 1-2).
[…]
In the Buddha’s teaching, the dark forces of the mind responsible for human suffering are called the defilements (kilesas), of which the most powerful are the three “unwholesome roots”, greed, hatred and delusion.
In its classical expression, the Buddha’s teaching focuses upon the role of the defilements in our personal lives, showing how they are the determinants of psychological and existential suffering. Today, however, as our world has become tightly integrated into a single global order, a shift in emphasis is necessary if we are to analyse and address our common plight. Since institutions and organisations have become ever more influential in moulding our circumstances and determining our destiny, we must closely investigate how the defilements assume a collective expression. We must lay bare the detrimental impact of our economic and political structures and discover how our forms of social organization, both national and international, sustain the grip of greed, hatred and delusion upon our minds.—- “Facing the Future- Four Essays”; ‘A Buddhist Social Ethic for the New Century’, Bikkhu Bodhi.
That's all good and may well be true but I'm afraid it isn't useful.
"It's just as if a man were wounded with an arrow thickly smeared with poison. His friends & companions, kinsmen & relatives would provide him with a surgeon, and the man would say, 'I won't have this arrow removed until I know whether the man who wounded me was a noble warrior, a brahman, a merchant, or a worker.' He would say, 'I won't have this arrow removed until I know the given name & clan name of the man who wounded me... until I know whether he was tall, medium, or short... until I know whether he was dark, ruddy-brown, or golden-colored... until I know his home village, town, or city... until I know whether the bow with which I was wounded was a long bow or a crossbow... until I know whether the bowstring with which I was wounded was fiber, bamboo threads, sinew, hemp, or bark... until I know whether the shaft with which I was wounded was wild or cultivated... until I know whether the feathers of the shaft with which I was wounded were those of a vulture, a stork, a hawk, a peacock, or another bird... until I know whether the shaft with which I was wounded was bound with the sinew of an ox, a water buffalo, a langur, or a monkey.' He would say, 'I won't have this arrow removed until I know whether the shaft with which I was wounded was that of a common arrow, a curved arrow, a barbed, a calf-toothed, or an oleander arrow.' The man would die and those things would still remain unknown to him.
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We need to pull the arrow out.

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:13 am

Recent data:
How much global temperatures rise for a certain level of carbon emissions is called climate sensitivity and is seen as the single most important measure of climate change. Computer models have long indicated a high level of sensitivity, up to 4.5C for a doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere.

However in recent years estimates of climate sensitivity based on historical temperature records from the past century or so have suggested the response might be no more than 3C. This would mean the planet could be kept safe with lower cuts in emissions, which are easier to achieve.

[but] new research, published in the journal Science Advances, has ended that. “The worrisome part is that all the models show there is an amplification of the amount of warming in the future,” he said. The situation might be even worse, as Proistosescu’s work shows climate sensitivity could be as high as 6C.

Prof Bill Collins, at the University of Reading, UK, and not part of the new research, said: “Some have suggested that we might be lucky and avoid dangerous climate change without taking determined action if the climate is not very sensitive to CO2 emissions. This work provides new evidence that that chance is remote.” He said greater long term warming had implications for melting of the world’s ice sheets and the rise of sea levels that already threatens many coastal cities. ...
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... w-research

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Thu Jul 06, 2017 11:39 am

Here's a great visualisation tool - unfortunately limited to covering the US. https://www.climaterealityproject.org/b ... e-explorer

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:32 am

I won't say "This changes everything" (partly because Naomi Klein already got there :smile: ) but it is a great step both in both politics and energy - and not just for one small state of one smallish country.
Elon Musk’s agreement to build the world’s largest battery for South Australia https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... -australia isn’t just an extraordinary technological breakthrough that signs coal’s death warrant. It’s potentially a game changer in the way we do politics, reinserting the importance of basic reality into a debate which has been bereft of it for too long. ... the idea sprang into the global mainstream last year with Donald Trump’s election campaign and the Brexit bus.

It seemed that truth no longer mattered. Facts were not just unimportant, but barriers to be smashed through with rhetoric. Demonstrating beyond reasonable doubt that a politician was lying no longer had any impact.

What’s this got to do with Elon Musk’s great big battery?

Often politics deals in ephemeral ideas, subjective ideas, ideas about how well off we are, how confident we might be about the future, how safe we feel. Decades of political focus on the dismal science of economics has enabled this. Politics can become a confidence game.

But sometimes politics comes up hard against reality.

For months now, Malcolm Turnbull, Josh Frydenberg, various fossil fuel energy executives and media commentators like Paul Kelly have been rabbiting on about the “energy trilemma”. It’s their contention that energy policy must deal with cost, reliability and emissions, and that it is impossible to achieve all three at the same time. Conveniently, they choose to put emissions at the bottom of this list and bury it under a pile of coal, which they claim is cheap and reliable. This is not true. Not even close to it. It doesn’t stand up to basic scrutiny.

Musk’s gambit closes this book. He has brought reality crashing in.

Within 100 days, there will be a huge battery system making South Australia’s energy grid clean, affordable and reliable, and benefitting the eastern states along with it.

All the talk of building new coal-fired power stations, or a Snowy Hydro 2.0, no longer sounds vaguely “truthy”. It sounds ridiculous. It sounds silly. It sounds like old men yelling at clouds.

This won’t suddenly bring back a cherished (and somewhat mythological) era of truth in politics. But it will have a real, demonstrable impact. It will help. We all owe deep gratitude to those who have made it happen.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ruth-world

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Sat Jul 08, 2017 1:46 am

That's a bit hard to reconcile with this:
http://climatecommunication.yale.edu/pu ... -may-2017/
Our most recent nationally representative survey finds that More than half of Americans (58%) believe climate change is mostly human caused. That’s the highest level measured since our surveys began in 2008. By contrast, only 30% say it is due mostly to natural changes in the environment, matching the lowest level measured in our November 2016 survey.

Four in ten Americans (39%) think the odds that global warming will cause humans to become extinct are 50% or higher. Most Americans (58%) think the odds of human extinction from global warming are less than 50%.

One in four Americans (24%) say providing a better life for our children and grandchildren is the most important reason, for them, to reduce global warming. More than one in ten Americans said preventing the destruction of most life on the planet (16%) or protecting God’s creation (13%) was the most important reason. ...
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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Sat Jul 22, 2017 5:54 am

Recent data, as per the thread title:
2017 is so unexpectedly warm it is freaking out climate scientists
“Extremely remarkable” 2017 heads toward record for hottest year without an El Niño episode.

Normally, the hottest years on record occur when the underlying human-caused global warming trend gets a temporary boost from an El Niño’s enhanced warming in the tropical Pacific.

So it’s been a surprise to climate scientists that 2017 has been so remarkably warm — because the last El Niño ended a year ago. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) reported Tuesday that the first half of 2017 was the second-warmest January-June on record for Earth, topped only by 2016, which was boosted by one of the biggest El Niños on record.

“As if it wasn’t shocking enough to see three consecutive record-breaking years, in 2014, 2015, and 2016, for the first time on record,” leading climatologist Michael Mann wrote in an email to ThinkProgress, “we’re now seeing near-record temperatures even in the absence of the El Nino ‘assist’ that the previous record year benefited from.”

...This matters because when a month — or six-month period — sees record high global temperatures in the absence of an El Niño, that is a sign the underlying global warming trend is stronger than ever.
https://thinkprogress.org/no-el-nino-st ... 162a5cc5bc

Ohshitohshitohshit, OWTTE.

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by Kim OHara » Wed Aug 09, 2017 9:46 pm

Greenland is burning
Thousands of acres of permafrost are burning in what appears to be Greenland’s biggest fire on record.
Greenland is almost entirely covered in an enormous ice sheet, but grassy, carbon-rich peatlands along the coast are heating up and drying out. “These fires appear to be peatland fires,” wildfire expert Prof. Jessica L. McCarty told Wildfire Today. “They are likely occurring in areas of degraded permafrost, which are predicted to have high thaw rates between now and 2050.” ...
And, no, this massive Greenland wildfire, which began at the end of July, is “not a typical wildfire,” as satellite data expert Prof. Stef Lhermitte told The Independent. “It’s a rare and unusual event. This one is the biggest one in the satellite record that we know of.” ...
A 2014 study found that the record-smashing ice-melt in July 2012, when 97 percent of Greenland’s surface was melting, was not just driven by rising temperatures. It was also exacerbated by black carbon (soot) from massive Siberian wildfires that darkened the great ice sheet, reducing its reflectivity and causing it to absorb more heat from the sun.
As the massive Greenland ice sheet shrinks–ice melt has sped up more than five-fold since the mid-1990s–more formerly ice-covered land will turn to grass- and shrub-covered peatland, leading to more wildfires, leading to more ice melt. No wonder scientists are freaking out.
https://thinkprogress.org/a-rare-and-un ... 794570798/

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by CedarTree » Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:13 am

I hope we can start practicing as a species a lot more restraint and loving kindness to the earth and the various sentient beings that call it home. :heart:


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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by cjmacie » Thu Aug 10, 2017 7:21 am

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"Straying too far? Professor says dogs and cats harm climate, advises hamsters instead"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ssor-says/

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/enviro ... 90657.html

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Re: Global Warming: Recent Data

Post by chownah » Thu Aug 10, 2017 1:55 pm

cjmacie wrote:.
"Straying too far? Professor says dogs and cats harm climate, advises hamsters instead"

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... ssor-says/

http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/enviro ... 90657.html

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Yeah. Those birthday candles are petroleum...they destroy the climate. Traveling to the birthday party consumes more petroleum. Better for everyone to stay home and do a virtual party with their i=phones and just use a youtube video of a birthday cake with candles. If people did that then the candles used to make the video would be the last candles that would ever needed to be made. Everyone needs to do their part to save the climate.
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