Student Of The Path

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Thanks for posting the video.
Is there a written translation?
The audio is not very clear.
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Venerable, what does the name Jayasara mean? :anjali:
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befriend wrote:Venerable, what does the name Jayasara mean? :anjali:
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Nice one
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What is the difference between novice ordination and the higher ordination?


I read the following and still can't see the main difference.

http://www.buddhanet.net/e-learning/bud ... ation1.htm
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Novice ordination is "the going forth" or pabbajja. this makes you a novice monastic, which is one who wears two of the three robes of a Bhikkhu and follows the 10 precepts(8 monastic precepts + not handling money).

traditionally from the Buddha's time to most Buddhist countries today, almost all novices are children and those under 20, because you need to be 20 years old for full ordination. In the West today its typical for all monastic aspirants to spend a year as a novice as part of a 2 year period prior to Upasampadā, which is the higher ordination (raising up) to Bhikkhu. It is at this point that the 227 rules kick in and you are considered a full monastic and obtain the third robe, the sangāti, or outer robe, which is used mostly for ceremonies and doubles as a blanket. it is at this point where vassa periods begin and you begin your counting with regards to monastic seniority.
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Thank you.
What is the biggest challenge for a fully ordained monk?
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i've only been a Bhikkhu a week, I'm not quite sure I'm qualified to answer that... although i suppose it's probably staying a monk and not disrobing, after that hurdle, I don't know.
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Hi, Bhante,

Thank you for sharing your letter. If this is something you would feel like sharing, could you maybe share how was your relationship after you ordained? How have you dealt with this big change in relation to your parents, and how have they reacted/dealt with the change as well? Have things completely settled now?

If you would rather not, it is fine.

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samseva wrote:
Hi, Bhante,

Thank you for sharing your letter. If this is something you would feel like sharing, could you maybe share how was your relationship after you ordained? How have you dealt with this big change in relation to your parents, and how have they reacted/dealt with the change as well? Have things completely settled now?

If you would rather not, it is fine.

Kind regards.

my family and friends knew years before that I would be doing this, although they did not really take it seriously until they realized I actually was leaving, and soon. It has been very hard on all of them but now after two and a half years they see I am very happy what I am doing and they have been able to let go enough to still miss me and wish I were home, but be ok that I am not part of their everyday life anymore.

Last time I saw them I found out my mom is doing some catholic based meditation, and I did a guided meditation with my whole family, so I suppose it's bitter sweet for them.
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Last time I saw them I found out my mom is doing some catholic based meditation, and I did a guided meditation with my whole family, so I suppose it's bitter sweet for them.
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Bhikkhu_Jayasara wrote:my family and friends knew years before that I would be doing this, although they did not really take it seriously until they realized I actually was leaving, and soon. It has been very hard on all of them but now after two and a half years they see I am very happy what I am doing and they have been able to let go enough to still miss me and wish I were home, but be ok that I am not part of their everyday life anymore.

Last time I saw them I found out my mom is doing some catholic based meditation, and I did a guided meditation with my whole family, so I suppose it's bitter sweet for them.
Hi Bhante,

Thanks for the response. It's interesting seeing how, at the same time, being distant from some people due to having made this choice has in a way had negative effects, but in another way, it has such a positive influence on others.

Kind regards.
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Video marking two years in robes, and one year as a Bhikkhu, joys and struggles, positives and negatives.


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