wheres that quote about there not being a god?

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wheres that quote about there not being a god?

Post by jcsuperstar » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:17 am

it goes something like "the universe is without refuge, a supreme lord or god"

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Re: wheres that quote about there not being a god?

Post by genkaku » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:28 am

Would you mind if I quoted you?

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Post by jcsuperstar » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:35 am

genkaku wrote:Would you mind if I quoted you?
not if it was something good... but if you got me by surprize when i was playing with the kitties and talking my baby talk.. well that, that i might want to be kept secret
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Re: wheres that quote about there not being a god?

Post by Dhammanando » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:37 am

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Raṭṭhapāla Sutta, MN. 82
  • “‘[Life in] any world is unstable, it is swept away’: this is the first summary of the Dhamma taught by the Blessed One who knows and sees, accomplished and fully enlightened. Knowing and seeing and hearing this, I went forth from the home life into homelessness.

    “‘[Life in] any world has no shelter and no protector’ (atāṇo loko anabhissaro): this is the second summary of the Dhamma taught by the Blessed One who knows and sees …

    “‘[Life in] any world has nothing of its own; one has to leave all and pass on’: this is the third summary of the Dhamma taught by the Blessed One who knows and sees …

    “‘[Life in] any world is incomplete, insatiate, the slave of craving’: this is the fourth summary of the Dhamma taught by the Blessed One who knows and sees …
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Re: wheres that quote about there not being a god?

Post by retrofuturist » Sat Jan 24, 2009 1:38 am

Greetings JC,

See also...

Buddhism and the God-idea
by Nyanaponika Thera
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... didea.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Metta,
Retro. :)
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Re: wheres that quote about there not being a god?

Post by jcsuperstar » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:21 am

it was this

"The universe is without a refuge, without a Supreme God." MN II 68.

from tilt, from the other site

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Re: wheres that quote about there not being a god?

Post by piotr » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:42 am

Hi,
jcsuperstar wrote:"The universe is without a refuge, without a Supreme God." MN II 68.
That's the same sutta which was quoted by bhante Dhammanando. :smile:
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Re: wheres that quote about there not being a god?

Post by jcsuperstar » Sat Jan 24, 2009 8:54 am

why are the #'s different?
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Re: wheres that quote about there not being a god?

Post by tiltbillings » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:02 am

jcsuperstar wrote:why are the #'s different?

The "82" is the number of the sutta; the "II 68" refers to page 68 in the second volume of the Pali Text Society's Pali edition of the MN. Using that citation method rather than simply quoting the sutta number makes it easier to locate a passage.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

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Re: wheres that quote about there not being a god?

Post by piotr » Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:05 am

Hi,
jcsuperstar wrote:why are the #'s different?
Bhante Dhammanando's number is to the sutta, Tilt's number is to the volume and page of PTS edition of Majjhima-nikāya.
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