Have you ever been to India?

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by dragonwarrior » Wed Oct 28, 2009 6:54 am

vinodh wrote:
Dirty :thinking: . I will come to that part later.

Hot ? May be for those who come from the cooler regions of the globe. 30-35 Degree Celsius is considered average here. (I set my AC to 25 and my Mom screams its too cold)

Criminals ..hmm.. As it goes anywhere, Tourists need to safe guard their belongings and avoid the street-guides and stuff. People tend to overprice things for Tourists (including the Local Tourists), so be careful on that part.

Now for the "Dirty" Part . It depends upon where you go. Yes, In general is little messy. Bear with it ! No other go :shrug: ( I know, its very embarrassing :( )

V
Oh, since I live in Jakarta, so I can understand the heat and the mess. >>> more embarrassing :?
Glad to hear the temperature, at least it's almost the same here.
vinodh wrote:
they said I will regret if I travel to India
Definitely not. :toast:

:thumbsup:

:namaste:
I hope so! :twothumbsup:
PeterB wrote:My wife and myself have visited several Indian towns away from the usual tourist trail destinations and have never had a bad experience..
On one occasion we left our hotel and went into the local village by tuk tuk with a couple of chaps we passed on the tracks, they showed us around the village, including pulling the local priest out of bed to do a puja, and showed us where a cobra lived during the day in a kind of mud shrine painted yellow.
When we returned to the hotel the staff were amazed when we told them where we had been. No hotel guest had ever been into the village before.
:thumbsup: you're so lucky ^^

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by cooran » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:02 am

Hello Winny,

Are you planning to travel with companions, or alone? It is unwise for lone females to travel alone around India.

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by vinodh » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:38 am

Chris wrote:t is unwise for lone females to travel alone around India.

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?

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by Ben » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:41 am

Hi Chris,
Chris wrote:Hello Winny,

Are you planning to travel with companions, or alone? It is unwise for lone females to travel alone around India.

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I've actually known several female co-practitioners who travelled alone in India with little hassle.
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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by cooran » Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:57 am

Hello Ben, vinodh, all,

I've been to India, Nepal, Bhutan, Kashmir etc. three or four times, and am going again in Feb/March 2010 to India and Nepal.

My son spent about six months travelling down the east coast, up the west coast and across the north from west to east. He lived in backpackers accommodation and travelled on public transport from place to place with others he met on the way. Invariably, the young women had experiences which impelled them to try to find groups which included males to travel onwards with.

Others experiences may vary.

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by dragonwarrior » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:18 am

Chris wrote:Hello Winny,

Are you planning to travel with companions, or alone? It is unwise for lone females to travel alone around India.

metta
Chris
Greetings Chris,
To be honest, I don't know yet Chris. But my father will definitely forbid me to go alone. Still looking for companions. :group:

By the way, is the pilgrimage route in the southern/northern India?

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by PeterB » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:30 am

Its mostly in the north Winny.

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by cooran » Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:52 am

Winny wrote:
Chris wrote:Hello Winny,

Are you planning to travel with companions, or alone? It is unwise for lone females to travel alone around India.

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Chris
Greetings Chris,
To be honest, I don't know yet Chris. But my father will definitely forbid me to go alone. Still looking for companions. :group:

By the way, is the pilgrimage route in the southern/northern India?
Hello Winny,

The Four Holy Places are Lumbini (Nepal) where Siddattha Gautama was born; Bodh Gaya where he became fully enlightened; Sarnath where he gave his first Teaching; and Kusinara where he attained final Nibbana.
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When I travel next Feb/Mar it will be with a small group of 28, (one busload) - which includes our two Bhikkhus (one from West Germany and one from Czechoslavakia). This tour is arranged by a local travel agent who is also a member of our lay community.

Previously I've travelled with members of dhammastudygroup out of Bangkok - in a much bigger group of around 120 people, usually taking four buses in India.

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by PeterB » Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:40 am

I think that there is a middle way here as in all things. I would advise against a young woman travelling ANYWHERE alone. On the other hand if taken too far fear about personal safety can spoil what could be some of the best parts of any trip. My wife and I attended a retreat and teachings in Sarnath which is near the ancient city of Varanasi. We and a few other Brits took time to visit the city, to watch the dawn over the Ganges etc. It was glorious. The American contigent ( I am not reading anything into this, just stating facts ) stayed resolutely in the retreat centre. They clearly thought that we were being reckless. When we told them that we had eaten in a pizza place near the Ganges they clearly thought that we were sectionable.....I think they missed something very special. And we didnt get Delhi Belly. Neither of us ever have , possibly because we have allowed suffient exposure to local varients of bactria to enable an immune response.

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by vinodh » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:22 am

Delhi Belly ??

Whats that ? :thinking:

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na pudgalo na ca skandhā buddho jñānamanāsravam
sadāśāntiṁ vibhāvitvā gacchāmi śaraṇaṁ hyaham

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by PeterB » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:27 am

Its the generic name Vinodh for the for the loose stools that westerners can sometimes experience when exposed to bacteria to which their bodies have no immunity. In Mexico its called Montezumas Revenge..

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by vinodh » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:29 am

So,

If I come to the US, will I experience the "New York Tummy" :tongue:

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yo dharmaṁ paśyati, sa buddhaṁ paśyati
One who sees the Dharma, sees the Buddha

na pudgalo na ca skandhā buddho jñānamanāsravam
sadāśāntiṁ vibhāvitvā gacchāmi śaraṇaṁ hyaham

Neither a person nor the aggregates, the Buddha, is knowledge free from [evil] outflows
Clearly perceiving [him] to be eternally serene, I go for refuge [in him]

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by PeterB » Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:32 am

Its possible. You may have contact with varities of E Coli in particular which you have no immunity to. It is very common for northern europeans to react in the same way when they first visit Spain.

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by dragonwarrior » Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:44 am

PeterB wrote:I think that there is a middle way here as in all things. I would advise against a young woman travelling ANYWHERE alone. On the other hand if taken too far fear about personal safety can spoil what could be some of the best parts of any trip. My wife and I attended a retreat and teachings in Sarnath which is near the ancient city of Varanasi. We and a few other Brits took time to visit the city, to watch the dawn over the Ganges etc. It was glorious. The American contigent ( I am not reading anything into this, just stating facts ) stayed resolutely in the retreat centre. They clearly thought that we were being reckless. When we told them that we had eaten in a pizza place near the Ganges they clearly thought that we were sectionable.....I think they missed something very special. And we didnt get Delhi Belly. Neither of us ever have , possibly because we have allowed suffient exposure to local varients of bactria to enable an immune response.
Yes, I'm totally agree with you Peter. My only difficulty in traveling is that I don't have companion. Sometimes my father just being too worry, and he required at least a male and a female friend to accompany every travel. Actually I'm not too worry about personal safety if I'm with a male companion, but considering the ethic in Eastern culture, especially in Indonesia, I need a female friend too. I believe that in my travel, bad things won't happen to me if it's not my karma. Anyway in this case, unfortunately most of my friends are Christians, of course I can't go pilgriming with them :cry: As you said, I'm still looking for the middle way.

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Re: Have you ever been to India?

Post by Dhammabodhi » Fri Oct 30, 2009 7:53 pm

Chris wrote:
It is unwise for lone females to travel alone around India.
I agree.
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