Hi have a question, i dont know if i should date a girl of 18, 4 years lesser than me, im 22, so is it a bad idea do take her to a movie or something like that? i say it because in one sutta the buddha explain that having a partner more young can be a cause of downfall because of jealousy. Can you explain me how and what cases are in this explanation?
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The Buddha explained a very old man takes a young woman (or women ) as consort/s but then worries that they might be ah, 'playing around' behind his back with younger cabelleros. The worry will cause him grief.
So the question is whether an ageing Romeo like you has the confidence to compete against the young studs..
So the question is whether an ageing Romeo like you has the confidence to compete against the young studs..
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You should never, ever date a woman who is more than a week younger than you are.
I'm joking. If the two of you appear equal or similar in age and beauty, there isn't much reason to worry (except for the usual romantic troubles of course).
I'm joking. If the two of you appear equal or similar in age and beauty, there isn't much reason to worry (except for the usual romantic troubles of course).
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The Parabhava Sutta says:
You are not past your youth — not by a long way. Perhaps if you were 30 the age difference might be too much.20. A person past his youth takes as wife, a girl in her teens, and sleeps not being jealous of her — this is the cause of his downfall.
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thank you bhikkhu pesala, thank you also reductor and robertk
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and what if the person past her youth takes a boy in his teens....? what happens? the same?Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:The Parabhava Sutta says:You are not past your youth — not by a long way. Perhaps if you were 30 the age difference might be too much.20. A person past his youth takes as wife, a girl in her teens, and sleeps not being jealous of her — this is the cause of his downfall.
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I think the answer should be obvious. If a woman past her prime gets sexually involved with a young man or teenager, then she is liable to get jealous if a young woman shows her BF some attention.lotus flower wrote:and what if the person past her youth takes a boy in his teens....? what happens? the same?Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:The Parabhava Sutta says:You are not past your youth — not by a long way. Perhaps if you were 30 the age difference might be too much.20. A person past his youth takes as wife, a girl in her teens, and sleeps not being jealous of her — this is the cause of his downfall.
There's no hard and fast rule about the age gap that works for relationships, but the Parabhava Sutta clearly says that the older person cannot sleep due to jealousy. That is less likely to be a problem if the couple are well matched.
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Venerable is it all reason of the wrong doing? jealousy is impossible if a person meeting with the young girl or boy only sometimes and they don't walk to places so they are simply don't near to other persons. then how the older get jealousy?Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:
I think the answer should be obvious. If a woman past her prime gets sexually involved with a young man or teenager, then she is liable to get jealous if a young woman shows her BF some attention.
There's no hard and fast rule about the age gap that works for relationships, but the Parabhava Sutta clearly says that the older person cannot sleep due to jealousy. That is less likely to be a problem if the couple are well matched.
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My partner is 6 years younger than myself and you are over a decade younger than me. A friend of mine has a partner who is over a decade younger than him. Age difference is not what matters, rather it is how the relationship is.mario92 wrote:Hi have a question, i dont know if i should date a girl of 18, 4 years lesser than me, im 22, so is it a bad idea do take her to a movie or something like that? i say it because in one sutta the buddha explain that having a partner more young can be a cause of downfall because of jealousy. Can you explain me how and what cases are in this explanation?
thank you
Mario
It isn't a bad idea, nor is it what the Buddha was probably referring too by more youthful than yourself. If you think she is out of your league just look at some of the celebrities who have partners that society deam far more attractive than them!
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You can't jump more than two points!
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robertk wrote:The Buddha explained a very old man takes a young woman (or women ) as consort/s but then worries that they might be ah, 'playing around' behind his back with younger cabelleros.
Very old man, like 80? Then yes, I see a problem. But even then, there is Hugh Hefner...
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Im not interessted anymore in a relationship of couple because most of the people here drink alcohol and i found it nonsense that kind of relationship because all the twisted things in it and its results. Drink alcohol makes you commit adultery and diminishes happinness and prosperity, so the most people here in Mexicali drink alcohol, these are alcohol relationship. I prefer to work towards tranquility and non shows life, i think if one go further in virtue onself can start to restrain the senses and practice meditation with sense wich means true tranquility. May be i would need some buddhist girl to have a relationship or maybe go further than sense pleasure.
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And you know what people do how exactly?
mario92 wrote:Im not interessted anymore in a relationship of couple because most of the people here drink alcohol and i found it nonsense that kind of relationship because all the twisted things in it and its results. Drink alcohol makes you commit adultery and diminishes happinness and prosperity, so the most people here drink alcohol, these are alcohol relationship. I prefer to work towards tranquility and non shows life, i think if one go further in virtue onself can start to restrain the senses and practice meditation with sense wich means true tranquility. May be i would need some buddhist girl to have a relationship or maybe go further than sense pleasure.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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Hi cittasanto i think, they do a relationship based in alcohol, shows and so on, evrey time i go with my family to a show or eat in a restaurant i found it in detrimental my spiritual practice, i see as i experience the bad results of doing that as a waste of time or nonsense. I dont know if this is the correct answeer to your question, i didnt understood it very well. Can you explain it please?
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Well considering you make an assertion about others I wanted to know how you know. Like I suspected you are just guessing and making unfounded aspersions.
Many here don't drink and use every situation as a opportunity to practice.
Many here don't drink and use every situation as a opportunity to practice.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
...
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
John Stuart Mill