What do I do? Questions, questions, questions...

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"Suffering" is not the most ideal translation of Dukkha.....

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TheNoBSBuddhist wrote:"Suffering" is not the most ideal translation of Dukkha.....

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What do you feel is 'the most ideal translation?

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stress, unsatisfactory, fluctuating.

'Suffering' seems to imply a downer all the time.

Of course, we can refer to the 'wonky wheel' aspect.
The Buddha described this aspect of dukkha by the very choice of dukkha as the term. “Du” of dukkha means “bad,” and “ka” means “wheel.” The Buddha invoked the metaphor of a bad wheel to capture the essence of dukkha.
http://www.netplaces.com/buddhism/the-b ... fering.htm

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I think we can agree that Dukka means suffering from the lowest to the highest.....encompasses all levels and types of Dukka.
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Yes, but those not acquainted with Buddhism see the word 'suffering' and think Buddhism is very pessimistic.
The word suffering leaves nothing open to interpretation; it always needs clarification, expansion, explanation.

Whereas the word 'unsatisfactory', fluctuating', 'stressful' can be pretty much seen for what they are....

This is just my view, of course.

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Please remember that Discovering Theravada is primarily intended to be a well-cited and relatively standard resource of posts with reference to an OP; discussions of translation issues for the term 'dukkha' will ideally be submitted alongside citations/further reading.

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For example: translating the term 'dukkha'
  • "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.

- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]
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