SarathW wrote:Thanks CLW-
Is this referring to sexual intercourse in Five Precepts ?
Its about sexual intercourse in general, and that of it being discouraged
The 5 precepts are about having sex in a non-harmful way for householders
SarathW wrote:Thanks CLW-
Is this referring to sexual intercourse in Five Precepts ?
agreed.SarathW wrote:Ok I agree that sex and gold and silver is necessary for the householder.
What about alcohol?
The point what I am trying to make here is consuming alcohol is against Buddha’s teaching for a house holder or a monk.
i cannot see how violating the Eight Preceptand wearing an earring or other jewellery would have a direct effect to prevent a dedicated meditator from reaching any state. i can however see that vanity and self conceit could prevent one from attaining jhana.SarathW wrote:So I concluded, unless you are observing ten precepts you will not be able to attain Fifth Jhana!
What do you think?
SarathW wrote:So I concluded, unless you are observing ten precepts you will not be able to attain Fifth Jhana!
What do you think?
i cannot see how violating the Eight Preceptand wearing an earring or other jewellery would have a direct effect to prevent a dedicated meditator from reaching any state. i can however see that vanity and self conceit could prevent one from attaining jhana.
kitztack wrote:including a wedding ring?
waterchan wrote:In this thread two members, apparently well fluent in Pali, analyze the meaning of the fifth precept. One comes to the conclusion that it means to refrain from getting intoxicated from drinking alcoholic beverages. The other concludes that the wording implies complete abstinence.
It's an excellent discussion. Personally I'm more convinced by the first explanation, compared to the common understanding of "Don't drink alcohol at all, no matter how small, whether you derive sensory pleasure from it or not, whether you are attached to it or not".