Kamma is anatta?

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Kamma is anatta?

Post by Buckwheat » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:09 pm

Is there a place in the Suttas where the Buddha says, "kamma is anatta"?
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Post by Dhammanando » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:37 pm

Buckwheat wrote:Is there a place in the Suttas where the Buddha says, "kamma is anatta"?
I don't think this phrase ever occurs in the Suttas, but it may be inferred that kamma is anattā from the fact that:

• The saṅkhāras of saṅkhārakkhandha are defined in the Suttas as the six bodies of cetanā.
• Saṅkhārakkhandha is anattā.
• Kamma is cetanā.

I have to go out now, but I'll try to post the relevant citations later, if someone else doesn't do so in the meantime.

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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Post by kc2dpt » Tue Oct 01, 2013 10:53 pm

There are many places in the suttas wherein the Buddha says the five aggregates are anatta.
Mental formations comprise the fourth aggregate.
Intention is one kind of mental formation.

"Intention, I tell you, is kamma. Intending, one does kamma by way of body, speech, & intellect." - AN 6.63

This is one example.
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Post by kc2dpt » Tue Oct 01, 2013 11:00 pm

Somehow I didn't see Bhante's responses before I posted my own.
Also, I've clearly forgotten lots of Pali in the past few years. :lol:
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Post by Buckwheat » Wed Oct 02, 2013 2:08 am

Thank you, both responses. :anjali:
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Post by Dhammanando » Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:03 am

Dhammanando wrote: • The saṅkhāras of saṅkhārakkhandha are defined in the Suttas as the six bodies of cetanā.
Katame ca, bhikkhave, saṅkhārā? Chayime, bhikkhave, cetanākāyā: rūpasañcetanā, saddasañcetanā, gandhasañcetanā, rasasañcetanā, phoṭṭhabbasañcetanā, dhammasañcetanā. Ime vuccanti, bhikkhave, saṅkhārā.
(Upādānaparipavatta Sutta, SN.iii.60)
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html
Dhammanando wrote:• Saṅkhārakkhandha is anattā.
Saṅkhārā anattā. Saṅkhārā ca hidaṃ, bhikkhave, attā abhavissaṃsu, nayidaṃ saṅkhārā ābādhāya saṃvatteyyuṃ, labbhetha ca saṅkhāresu: ‘evaṃ me saṅkhārā hontu, evaṃ me saṅkhārā mā ahesun’ ti. Yasmā ca kho, bhikkhave, saṅkhārā anattā, tasmā saṅkhārā ābādhāya saṃvattanti, na ca labbhati saṅkhāresu: ‘evaṃ me saṅkhārā hontu, evaṃ me saṅkhārā mā ahesun’ ti.
(Anattalakkhaṇa Sutta, SN.iii.67)
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .nymo.html
Dhammanando wrote:• Kamma is cetanā.
Cetanā’haṃ, bhikkhave, kammaṃ vadāmi. Cetayitvā kammaṃ karoti: kāyena vācāya manasā.
(Nibbedhika Sutta, AN.iii.415)
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Re: Kamma is anatta?

Post by Buckwheat » Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:04 pm

:goodpost: This was a good set of reading for me this morning. Thanks, bhante. :anjali:
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