Thanissaro's 'Unprovoked' in the Dhammacakkappavattana Sutta

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Re: Thanissaro's 'Unprovoked' in the Dhammacakkappavattana S

Post by pulga » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:01 am

Viscid wrote: Well there are many abstract entities which can be thought of as existing 'outside of time,' such as numbers or 'redness,' ...
Abstract entities are always founded upon concrete sensual experience, the mind being the resort, the patisarana of the other five senses (cf. Mahavedallasutta) : that's why our experience of transcendence - whether it be taken as self or as nibbana - is undermined by the impermanence of the six pairs of sensual experience, the salayatanani.

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Re: Thanissaro's 'Unprovoked' in the Dhammacakkappavattana S

Post by Viscid » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:20 am

pulga wrote:
Viscid wrote: Well there are many abstract entities which can be thought of as existing 'outside of time,' such as numbers or 'redness,' ...
Abstract entities are always founded upon concrete sensual experience, the mind being the resort, the patisarana of the other five senses (cf. Mahavedallasutta) : that's why our experience of transcendence - whether it be taken as self or as nibbana - is undermined by the impermanence of the six pairs of sensual experience, the salayatanani.
Agree completely. I didn't mean to convey that I was convinced such abstract entities were independently real and eternal like Plato's forms, just that they can be thought of as being atemporal.
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