Spiny Norman wrote:By apperception do you mean conceiving? And are you suggesting that an Arahant doesn't perceive? As far as I can see MN1 is basically saying that an Arahant perceives ( sanna ) but doesn't conceive ( mannati ) - if an Arahant wasn't perceiving then he presumably wouldn't be able to distinguish earth from water and so on.
Source: http://www.mahabodhi.org.uk/metta.htmlSanna, though it is sometimes rendered perception or recognition, is better translated as ‘apperception.’
Apperception is: “The process of understanding by which newly observed qualities of an object are related to past experience.” Apperception is in a way a combination of perception and recognition. For example, we perceive a chair; but we already have an idea in our minds about what a chair is. So our apperception of the chair is to re-cognize what we have previously cognized as a chair.
"Re-recognizing what we have previously cognized" is not to "directly know" something.
... just a paraphrase of the MN1 quotation as it pertains to "a monk who is a trainee"mikenz66 wrote:I'm afraid I don't understand the second one, thought...
Metta,
Retro.