Possibly the most important poll you'll ever answer....

Casual discussion amongst spiritual friends.

Who is your favourite Traveling Wilbury?

Jeff Lynne
2
6%
Tom Petty
8
24%
Roy Orbison
3
9%
Bob Dylan
12
35%
George Harrison
9
26%
Jim Keltner
0
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Total votes: 34

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Re: Possibly the most important poll you'll ever answer....

Post by retrofuturist » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:40 am

:rofl:

I do like to be factually accurate. 8-)

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Post by Benjamin » Wed Mar 27, 2013 12:00 pm



That song was my jam back in the day.


Dylan comes second, I saw him 2 years ago in concert and he is still good at what he does.
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Post by Buckwheat » Wed Mar 27, 2013 3:38 pm

I voted Tom Petty because he has a long list of songs that everybody can love. I appreciate Dylan's place in history and his impact on culture, but I don't really enjoy listening to his music. Harrison gets an A for character and ability with a six-string, but he wasn't the best Beatle, and he wasn't the best Wilbury. However, I'm thinking about changing to Roy Orbison because right now he only has one vote. He's cooler than the other side of the pillow. :thumbsup:

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Post by iforgotmyname » Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:16 pm

Dylan, with Petty coming in a close second. But I haven't really heard the other guys much, so I'm biased. I saw a documentary about Dylan a few years back, he just hangs out at his massive ranch now somewhere in the USA. He seemed a little gone though, you can sort of tell his lifestyle may have got to him.

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Post by imagemarie » Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:28 pm




Errrrr..............errrrr...........

+1 Bob :smile:

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Post by danieLion » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:30 pm

Oh no I'm in a majority opinion for once. :rolleye: Petty second, Orbison third. Without Bob there'd prolly be no Harrison or Petty--Orbison could prolly stand alone though.

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Post by retrofuturist » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:25 pm

Greetings,
danieLion wrote:Without Bob there'd prolly be no Harrison
That's a pretty big call... have you ever heard of George's old band?

They were called The Beatles. 8-)

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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Possibly the most important poll you'll ever answer....

Post by manas » Wed Mar 27, 2013 10:52 pm

This is probably the only opportunity I will ever get to ask this question, as I don't frequent musical forums, so... to die hard fans of Bob Dylan: does the fact that he could not hold pitch, not bother you at all? I mean, I agree that he had a rare and outstanding gift for writing lyrics, he was and is indeed a great poet. But his voice doesn't seem to match that greatness, do people know what I mean?

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Post by SDC » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:05 pm

He sang that way as a form of style. He adopted it from the folk scene, most notably from Roscoe Holcomb. He could hit notes just fine but it was the style of hitting the note that caused some to assume he lacked the ability. It's not for everyone but he hit the notes.

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Post by retrofuturist » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:09 pm

Greetings Manas,
manas wrote:But his voice doesn't seem to match that greatness, do people know what I mean?
Well as a non-Bob fan, I know exactly what you mean, and it's the reason I don't like his music.... which isn't to say that he doesn't write good songs. The Mighty Quinn is an awesome song, for example... it's just best when performed by Manfred Mann as opposed to by Bob himself.

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"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Possibly the most important poll you'll ever answer....

Post by manas » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:36 pm

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Manas,
manas wrote:But his voice doesn't seem to match that greatness, do people know what I mean?
Well as a non-Bob fan, I know exactly what you mean, and it's the reason I don't like his music.... which isn't to say that he doesn't write good songs. The Mighty Quinn is an awesome song, for example... it's just best when performed by Manfred Mann as opposed to by Bob himself.

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Yep that's how I see it also. Agree about The Mighty Quinn, which is a gem of a song. Anyway I guess it's a matter of personal taste.
SDC wrote:He sang that way as a form of style. He adopted it from the folk scene, most notably from Roscoe Holcomb. He could hit notes just fine but it was the style of hitting the note that caused some to assume he lacked the ability. It's not for everyone but he hit the notes.
Thank you for explaining that. I did wonder if it was intentional or not.

I think I might find it difficult partly because I come from the classical tradition, where sound quality is very important. For example, if anyone has heard of Maria Callas, I mean her voice was virtually like an earthbound Goddess when at her peak. After listening to singers like that over the years, it was hard when starting to also explore popular and folk styles, to appreciate a voice like Dylan's. Believe it or not I did try! And I liked his lyrics, and what he stood for. All of that, awesome. Just could not handle the vocal style, but 'each to his own'...

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Re: Possibly the most important poll you'll ever answer....

Post by danieLion » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:15 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,
danieLion wrote:Without Bob there'd prolly be no Harrison
That's a pretty big call... have you ever heard of George's old band?

They were called The Beatles. 8-)

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Never heard of 'em. :tongue:

The Beatles met Bob in '64 and their influence on him is well documented. The Beatles, IMO, made their best music ater this. So I guess I should have said we wouldn't have GH as we know him today (BTW, have you ever seen that footage of Bob and John sharing a taxi--the one where Bob Dylan by the end looks like he's having a bad trip or needs to vomit or something?).

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Re: Possibly the most important poll you'll ever answer....

Post by danieLion » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:18 am

manas wrote:This is probably the only opportunity I will ever get to ask this question, as I don't frequent musical forums, so... to die hard fans of Bob Dylan: does the fact that he could not hold pitch, not bother you at all? I mean, I agree that he had a rare and outstanding gift for writing lyrics, he was and is indeed a great poet. But his voice doesn't seem to match that greatness, do people know what I mean?

metta
He could hold a pitch. Several of his recordings and performances demnstrate this. I think he was just lazy or otherwise didn't care or had a bad night. It's also a matter of taste. Opera singers are supposed to be the best in the world at holding a picth but I can't stand Opera.

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Re: Possibly the most important poll you'll ever answer....

Post by danieLion » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:26 am

manas wrote:
I think I might find it difficult partly because I come from the classical tradition, where sound quality is very important. For example, if anyone has heard of Maria Callas, I mean her voice was virtually like an earthbound Goddess when at her peak. After listening to singers like that over the years, it was hard when starting to also explore popular and folk styles, to appreciate a voice like Dylan's. Believe it or not I did try! And I liked his lyrics, and what he stood for. All of that, awesome. Just could not handle the vocal style, but 'each to his own'...

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art is very subjective for the creator and the receiver...i love classical music, but put an opera singer in their and i'm outta there...

the best live show i ever "saw" was the symphony for oregon ballet theatre performing prokofiev's romeo and juliet...i was on the front row and i swear i levitated when the sound waves from the first note hit my body....yes, i was sober ;) (i'm also a singer/songwriter/recording artist and quite a perfectionist--and i have some classical training, even in voice, so i get where you're coming from. IDK Bob does it for me, but he does. I also like Neil Young a lot, but i don't try to emulate him or Bob--my range is too tenor/baritone)

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Re: Possibly the most important poll you'll ever answer....

Post by manas » Thu Mar 28, 2013 12:43 am

danieLion wrote:
manas wrote:This is probably the only opportunity I will ever get to ask this question, as I don't frequent musical forums, so... to die hard fans of Bob Dylan: does the fact that he could not hold pitch, not bother you at all? I mean, I agree that he had a rare and outstanding gift for writing lyrics, he was and is indeed a great poet. But his voice doesn't seem to match that greatness, do people know what I mean?

metta
He could hold a pitch. Several of his recordings and performances demnstrate this. I think he was just lazy or otherwise didn't care or had a bad night. It's also a matter of taste. Opera singers are supposed to be the best in the world at holding a picth but I can't stand Opera.
Same here, so far as your average opera singer goes. I hate a forced, overly belted out sound with excessive, wobbly vibrato. My mentioning of Callas was a bit out of place, because in the opinion of many, she outshone most other classical operatic singers. Her voice wasn't forced, and the vibrato was perfectly under her control (when she was at her best, that is). But yeah in general opera was never really my thing, I much preferred symphonies, sonatas and piano music, to people getting dressed up and belting it out.

Anyway I had better get :focus: and discuss the travelling wiburies lol

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Knowing this body is like a clay jar,
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attack Mara with the spear of discernment,
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