What is shame based on knowledge of cause and effect?
What is shame based on knowledge of cause and effect?
This is a shame based on knowledge of cause and effect, rather than emotional guilt So it's good shame? Ajahn Chah was talking about it.
Re: What is shame based on knowledge of cause and effect?
Emotional guilt is ignorantly causing ill effect towards others and themselves, not knowing it, and developing bad karmic for themselves and others. And it is not truly loving. knowledge of cause and effect is in true understanding the underlying principle of humanity and thus developing on loving metta
To become vegetarian is to step into the stream which leads to nirvana.
If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path. He who experiences the unity of life sees his own Self in all beings, and all beings in his own Self.
If you light a lamp for somebody, it will also brighten your path. He who experiences the unity of life sees his own Self in all beings, and all beings in his own Self.
Re: What is shame based on knowledge of cause and effect?
Could you give a reference for this? It might help people if they saw the context.Uilium wrote:This is a shame based on knowledge of cause and effect, rather than emotional guilt So it's good shame? Ajahn Chah was talking about it.
Re: What is shame based on knowledge of cause and effect?
Ah, is it this one?
http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/On_Medita ... hp#foot677
Bhikkhu Bodhi has written a nice little article on hiri and its counterpart, ottappa
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ay_23.html
which you might find helpful.
http://www.ajahnchah.org/book/On_Medita ... hp#foot677
The footnote isWhatever we do we take care. A sense of shame4 will arise. We will feel ashamed about the things we do which aren't correct. As shame increases, our collectedness will increase as well. When collectedness increases, heedlessness will disappear. Even if we don't sit in meditation, these factors will be present in the mind.
The footnote is probably by the translator, but I think it means something like a wholesome sense of shame or conscience (hiri in Pali) which we can use to protect ourselves. We develop a sense of what consequences our actions will have when we are in the collected state, and thus we restrain ourselves from doing wrong. As it is based on consequences, it is "based on cause and effect". This is contrasted with the idea of "emotional guilt" - just beating ourselves up for things we did in the past - which is fruitless.This is a shame based on knowledge of cause and effect, rather than emotional guilt.
Bhikkhu Bodhi has written a nice little article on hiri and its counterpart, ottappa
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... ay_23.html
which you might find helpful.