What put me off was the "fact/values" instead of the "fact vs values."
I took that post to essentially be a condensed version of the one above regarding the quote in the OP, so won't reply to that.
The Collapse of the Fact/Value Dichotomy
danieLion wrote:Belief that the fact/value (fact/opinion) distinction is valid is just another opinion.
could you expand on this?
by Hilary Putnam
Excerpt from Richard Rorty's review
of the above.
Putnam's dislike of science-worship is just one example of his distrust of all philosophies that stray too far from common sense, from what he sometimes...calls "the ordinary...." Using a strategy pioneered by Dewey, Putnam shows how his opponents have turned commonsensical distinctions into philosophical dichotomies (fact vs. value, objective vs. subjective, mind vs. matter) and then, typically, tried to eliminate one side of the dichotomy in favor of the other.
I would agree with this quotation in general. But just to pick up on mind vs. matter, within the canon we have namarupa (name and form), internal & external.... particularly noticable with the Internal & external is the tetralima. sometimes things can be one or the other (or examined at either frame of reference) both, or neither. although the jain do have a seven-fold model
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anekantavada#Philosophical_overview wrote: syād-asti—in some ways, it is,
syād-nāsti—in some ways, it is not,
syād-asti-nāsti—in some ways, it is, and it is not,
syād-asti-avaktavyaḥ—in some ways, it is, and it is indescribable,
syād-nāsti-avaktavyaḥ—in some ways, it is not, and it is indescribable,
syād-asti-nāsti-avaktavyaḥ—in some ways, it is, it is not, and it is indescribable,
syād-avaktavyaḥ—in some ways, it is indescribable.
although this does seam to be a little bit too far.
I will take this opportunity to share some of the links - rather than make a new reply - of pages I have saved recently (although I would generally just do a search when my interest peaked for whatever reason). Although these are just the pages I happened to bookmark, not that they are of particular importance.https://owl.english.purdue.edu/owl/resource/588/04/http://papyr.com/hypertextbooks/comp1/logic.htmhttp://www.bestlibrary.org/ssmedia/2009 ... acies.html
Blog, Suttas, Aj Chah, Facebook.
He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.John Stuart Mill