which dhamma texts would you pick?

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by bodom » Thu Feb 14, 2013 10:10 pm

Without a doubt the two texts I would be bringing are Nyanatiloka"s anthology of suttas The Buddhas Path to Deliverance and Ajahn Chah's Food for the Heart.

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To practice is to know your defilements,
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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by alan... » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:28 am

all sound great. ajahn chah is really popular! i know little about him. is he as meticulous and specific as ajahn brahm? all i've read by him are snippets and quotes that seem vague, but then again snippets and quotes are frequently in themselves vague.

why the dhammapada? is it a commentary along with it?

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by alan... » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:29 am

bodom wrote:Without a doubt the two texts I would be bringing are Nyanatiloka"s anthology of suttas The Buddhas Path to Deliverance and Ajahn Chah's Food for the Heart.

:anjali:
never read any nyanatiloka, i'll have to look into that. another ajahn chah mention! he must be good.

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by alan... » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:30 am

lojong1 wrote:
manas wrote:I don't know if people could actually learn the Dhamma *just* from books, without losing their way.
They would have each other. They ought to be able to make some progress with...

the MAJJHIMA NIKAYA
seriously! along with bhikkhu bodhi's notes that book is extremely comprehensive and useful!!! it's my desert island book if i had to pick one for sure.

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by ground » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:37 am

Sort of "Survival" books may be more appropriate, books about simply agriculture ... because it is an "island in the middle of nowhere" :sage:

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by retrofuturist » Fri Feb 15, 2013 4:39 am

Greetings,
alan... wrote:why the dhammapada? is it a commentary along with it?
There's a set of stories that have been forcibly retrofitted into it, but I'm not aware of a commentary beyond that.
another ajahn chah mention! he must be good.
There's a free PDF online that collects all his translated Dhamma talks.

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by Nyana » Fri Feb 15, 2013 2:56 pm

alan... wrote:ajahn chah is really popular! i know little about him. is he as meticulous and specific as ajahn brahm? all i've read by him are snippets and quotes that seem vague, but then again snippets and quotes are frequently in themselves vague.
I haven't found Ajahn Chah to be vague. IMO he often gets to the heart of the matter. Many translations of his teachings are available here: ajahnchah.org.
alan... wrote:why the dhammapada?
It's a useful collection of teachings that cover various aspects of conduct and practice.

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by tiltbillings » Fri Feb 15, 2013 6:23 pm

Ñāṇa wrote:
alan... wrote:why the dhammapada?
It's a useful collection of teachings that cover various aspects of conduct and practice.
It is a very rich and deep text.
>> Do you see a man wise [enlightened/ariya] in his own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for him.<< -- Proverbs 26:12

This being is bound to samsara, kamma is his means for going beyond. -- SN I, 38.

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by Ben » Fri Feb 15, 2013 10:31 pm

ground wrote:Sort of "Survival" books may be more appropriate, books about simply agriculture ... because it is an "island in the middle of nowhere" :sage:
He must mean Australia.
When you get here, he'll see we've had various forms of agriculture for 40,000 years +.
We've also got the tipitaka, commentaries and the storehouse of Theravadin post-canonical literature.
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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by Dhammanando » Fri Feb 15, 2013 11:14 pm

alan... wrote:why the dhammapada? is it a commentary along with it?
There is an old commentary to it, traditionally attributed to Buddhaghosa. The commentary comprises an explanation of the words in each verse, along with some story that ostensibly accounts for the verse's origin. The stories were translated many decades ago by Burlingame as Buddhist Legends, but he left out the arguably much more useful word-commentary. The latter has now been translated by John Ross Carter, but you need to get the right edition. The Ross Carter translation that Ñāṇa linked to is the 112-page edition, with the verses only. For the word-commentary you need to get the 552-page edition by Ross Carter, Mahinda Palihawadana and Jaroslav Pelikan:

http://www.oup.com/us/catalog/general/s ... 0195108606

But if you don't want to spend $65 there is also a Kindle version for $7.

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by alan... » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:34 pm

Ben wrote:
ground wrote:Sort of "Survival" books may be more appropriate, books about simply agriculture ... because it is an "island in the middle of nowhere" :sage:
He must mean Australia.
When you get here, he'll see we've had various forms of agriculture for 40,000 years +.
We've also got the tipitaka, commentaries and the storehouse of Theravadin post-canonical literature.
just so everyone is clear i was never talking about australia. as far as i know australia is just like any other modern country such as england, france, japan, or the united states. my fictional island has no tv, internet, etc. it's your classic lost island in the middle of nowhere scenario. whereas australia is totally modern and connected with everyone else via all sorts of technology. australia would in no way fit my hypothetical scenario.

how in the world people think i'm talking about australia is beyond me.

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by LonesomeYogurt » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:41 pm

If it's NOT Australia, then I would bring the Samyutta Nikaya hollowed out and filled with tons of horrifying spiders - I wouldn't want my island nation to feel wimpy in comparison.

Seriously Australia what's up with your spiders
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Anyway, I would suggest, as a text, the Majjhima Nikaya or the Sutta Nipata - I value the latter more, but the former is probably filled with more worthwhile stuff just because of its size. As a non-canonical source, Buddhadasa's Mindfulness with Breathing would be all the meditation instruction anyone out there would need.
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta

Stuff I write about things.

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by reflection » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:45 pm

alan... wrote:
Ben wrote:
ground wrote:Sort of "Survival" books may be more appropriate, books about simply agriculture ... because it is an "island in the middle of nowhere" :sage:
He must mean Australia.
When you get here, he'll see we've had various forms of agriculture for 40,000 years +.
We've also got the tipitaka, commentaries and the storehouse of Theravadin post-canonical literature.
just so everyone is clear i was never talking about australia. as far as i know australia is just like any other modern country such as england, france, japan, or the united states. my fictional island has no tv, internet, etc. it's your classic lost island in the middle of nowhere scenario. whereas australia is totally modern and connected with everyone else via all sorts of technology. australia would in no way fit my hypothetical scenario.

how in the world people think i'm talking about australia is beyond me.
Pretty much sounds like a place I'll be visiting soonish.. All the bookwork I take is a map to get me off again at the other end. :D I do think of taking a dhammapada, though. To have something inspiring to read in the evenings.

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Re: which dhamma texts would you pick?

Post by reflection » Sun Feb 17, 2013 11:48 pm

ground wrote:Sort of "Survival" books may be more appropriate, books about simply agriculture ... because it is an "island in the middle of nowhere" :sage:
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