retrofuturist wrote: Note that all seven are pleasant, wholesome things, so if a particular practice is inflicting dukkha, then perhaps the efficacy and suitability of that practice should be re-assessed?
- "And who is the individual who goes against the flow? There is the case where an individual doesn't indulge in sensual passions and doesn't do evil deeds. Even though it may be with pain, even though it may be with sorrow, even though he may be crying, his face in tears, he lives the holy life that is perfect & pure. This is called the individual who goes against the flow. AN4.5
This holy life with pain, sorrow and crying would make sense if there was rebirth and one would remove much more suffering. But if this is the only life, why follow path that can be with pain, sorrow and tears for the results that are guaranteed anyways?