The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

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The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by Christopherxx » Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:57 pm

So if you've never heard Ajahn Ṭhānissaro speak you are missing out on a real treat. Maybe even a new craving ;)

Sutta Readings has some great suttas as read by him as well as dhamma talks through metta monastery.

I would love to hear him read the whole Canon. And what a great way to get the suttas out there for people on the go.

Hope everyone has a great upcoming holiday season!

Your friend.

With Metta :)!

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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by gavesako » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:02 pm

His pronunciation of many Pali words is funny -- it betrays a strong Thai influence combined with an American accent. So don't follow him thinking that this is Pali correct pronunciation (similar with Bhikkhu Bodhi as well).
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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by mikenz66 » Mon Nov 19, 2012 7:37 pm

Hi Bhante,

The readings being referred to are in English, so the American accent is not a serious problem for most (apart from those who cling to the idea that native English still get to define English... :popcorn:)

Regarding Pali, the concept of "correct" Pali seems rather elusive. All modern Pali pronunciation appears to be heavily influenced by the native language of the speakers. Thai, Burmese, and Sri Lankan pronunciations of certain words can be very different, and the rhythmic sense seems to vary a lot (which can be quite disconcerting when one is used to a particular style).

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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by gavesako » Mon Nov 19, 2012 8:41 pm

Yes, I am only referring to his pronunciation of Pali terms: he seems to pronounce "t" as "d" for example, which is typical for Thai speakers. I think the speakers of Indian languages would still be the most reliable as regards the "correct" pronunciation of Pali today. Sri Lankan monks are also usually pretty close to it, much more than Thai or Burmese. And my favourite is the little boy Dhamma Ruwan of course:

Young children are sometimes very close to Dhamma, for example this young boy in Sri Lanka who used to recite Suttas in Pali from the age of 3. This is Dhamma Ruwan boy chanting the Dhammacakka Sutta which was recorded many years ago:
http://www.pirith.org/download/Dhammachakka.mp3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://theravadin.wordpress.com/2008/08 ... h-century/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by Khalil Bodhi » Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:27 pm

gavesako wrote:Yes, I am only referring to his pronunciation of Pali terms: he seems to pronounce "t" as "d" for example, which is typical for Thai speakers. I think the speakers of Indian languages would still be the most reliable as regards the "correct" pronunciation of Pali today. Sri Lankan monks are also usually pretty close to it, much more than Thai or Burmese. And my favourite is the little boy Dhamma Ruwan of course:

Young children are sometimes very close to Dhamma, for example this young boy in Sri Lanka who used to recite Suttas in Pali from the age of 3. This is Dhamma Ruwan boy chanting the Dhammacakka Sutta which was recorded many years ago:
http://www.pirith.org/download/Dhammachakka.mp3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://theravadin.wordpress.com/2008/08 ... h-century/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by mirco » Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:02 pm

Christopherxx wrote:So if you've never heard Ajahn Ṭhānissaro speak you are missing out on a real treat. Maybe even a new craving ;) Sutta Readings has some great suttas as read by him as well as dhamma talks through metta monastery. I would love to hear him read the whole Canon. And what a great way to get the suttas out there for people on the go. Hope everyone has a great upcoming holiday season! Your friend. With Metta :)!
Can you provide any links, please :-)
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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by mikenz66 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 12:35 am

http://www.accesstoinsight.org/outsources/audio.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.suttareadings.net/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by Kamran » Tue Nov 20, 2012 3:04 am

With the birds chirping in the background it seems like you are sitting in the forest listening to the buddha :)
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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by gavesako » Tue Nov 20, 2012 1:08 pm

Another similar project:

Learning Suttas - SADDHAMMAPATIRŪPAKA SUTTA in English
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqfp_wFY ... ure=relmfu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

(But it is not a native English speaker, sounds Malaysian. The text is displayed along with the sound.)
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Kiṃkusalagavesī anuttaraṃ santivarapadaṃ pariyesamāno... (MN 26)

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Ancient Buddhist Texts - Translations and history of Pali texts
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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by Kusala » Wed Nov 21, 2012 2:16 am

gavesako wrote:Yes, I am only referring to his pronunciation of Pali terms: he seems to pronounce "t" as "d" for example, which is typical for Thai speakers. I think the speakers of Indian languages would still be the most reliable as regards the "correct" pronunciation of Pali today. Sri Lankan monks are also usually pretty close to it, much more than Thai or Burmese. And my favourite is the little boy Dhamma Ruwan of course:

Young children are sometimes very close to Dhamma, for example this young boy in Sri Lanka who used to recite Suttas in Pali from the age of 3. This is Dhamma Ruwan boy chanting the Dhammacakka Sutta which was recorded many years ago:
http://www.pirith.org/download/Dhammachakka.mp3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://theravadin.wordpress.com/2008/08 ... h-century/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: The Canon as Spoken by Ṭhānissaro Bhikkhu

Post by PorkChop » Fri Nov 23, 2012 7:15 am

gavesako wrote:Yes, I am only referring to his pronunciation of Pali terms: he seems to pronounce "t" as "d" for example, which is typical for Thai speakers. I think the speakers of Indian languages would still be the most reliable as regards the "correct" pronunciation of Pali today. Sri Lankan monks are also usually pretty close to it, much more than Thai or Burmese. And my favourite is the little boy Dhamma Ruwan of course:

Young children are sometimes very close to Dhamma, for example this young boy in Sri Lanka who used to recite Suttas in Pali from the age of 3. This is Dhamma Ruwan boy chanting the Dhammacakka Sutta which was recorded many years ago:
http://www.pirith.org/download/Dhammachakka.mp3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://theravadin.wordpress.com/2008/08 ... h-century/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Oh wow...
Listened to the whole 30 min straight through right off the bat.
Amazing!!
Sri Lankan Pali chanting is definitely my favorite; only things that come close (for me) are Thai Pali chanting and Chinese version of the Heart Sutra.
Picked up the Sri Lankan tracks from Buddhanet.net; always on the lookout for more.

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