Does rape fall under sexual misconduct?

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Does rape fall under sexual misconduct?

Post by hermitwin » Thu Oct 18, 2012 7:40 am

in 5 precepts, which one does rape come under?

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Re: Does rape fall under sexual misconduct?

Post by cooran » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:53 am

Hello hermitwin,

Rape is gross sexual misconduct. It is a breach of the Third Precept.

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Re: Does rape fall under sexual misconduct?

Post by vitor-n » Thu Oct 18, 2012 1:29 pm

It is also important to remember that by breaching, as Chris said, one of these precepts you are 'at risk', so to speak, of violating the four remaining. For they are not to be understood as separate ones, but constantly linked with each other. In the Abhisanda Sutta (AN 8.39) it is read that the rewards of taking the five precepts do not vary from one precept to the other, emphasizing how much the precepts are intrinsically related.

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Re: Does rape fall under sexual misconduct?

Post by LonesomeYogurt » Thu Oct 18, 2012 4:06 pm

It should also be mentioned that while rape is technically sexual misconduct, that is not the main reason why it is horrible. Framing rape in terms of sexual misconduct takes the risk of making violent, destructive assault merely a matter of lust or self-indulgence. Not every unwholesome action can be linked to the precepts anyway - your could torture someone to the brink of death and still not be in breach of the first precept should they end up surviving.
Gain and loss, status and disgrace,
censure and praise, pleasure and pain:
these conditions among human beings are inconstant,
impermanent, subject to change.

Knowing this, the wise person, mindful,
ponders these changing conditions.
Desirable things don’t charm the mind,
undesirable ones bring no resistance.

His welcoming and rebelling are scattered,
gone to their end,
do not exist.
- Lokavipatti Sutta

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Re: Does rape fall under sexual misconduct?

Post by Annapurna » Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:09 pm

hermitwin wrote:in 5 precepts, which one does rape come under?
Hello, hermitwin,

rape is non-consential sex and thus only possible with violence.

That which is not being given freely should not be taken.

The Buddhist path is non-violent.

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Re: Does rape fall under sexual misconduct?

Post by seeker242 » Thu Oct 18, 2012 9:50 pm

Abandoning the taking of what is not given, he abstains from taking what is not given. He does not take, in the manner of a thief, things in a village or a wilderness that belong to others and have not been given by them. Abandoning sensual misconduct, he abstains from sensual misconduct. He does not get sexually involved with those who are protected by their mothers, their fathers, their brothers, their sisters, their relatives, or their Dhamma; those with husbands, those who entail punishments, or even those crowned with flowers by another man. — AN X 176
Are you taking something that is not given, if you were to rape someone? I think so. Precept broken!
Are you becoming sexually involved with one who is protected, if you were to rape someone? I think so. Another precept broken!

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