Asking about parajika

Discussion of ordination, the Vinaya and monastic life. How and where to ordain? Bhikkhuni ordination etc.
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Modus.Ponens wrote:Thanks Cittasanto. That was really clarifying. :smile:
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Somehow it seems that it is much more complicated to resist as a novice then as a Bhikkhu, isn't it?
Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_
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Number 44:
44.‘‘Yo pana bhikkhu bhikkhūnaṃ sikkhāsājīvasamāpanno sikkhaṃ apaccakkhāya dubbalyaṃ anāvikatvā methunaṃ dhammaṃ paṭiseveyya antamaso tiracchānagatāyapi, pārājiko hoti asaṃvāso’’ti.
http://www.tipitaka.org/romn/cscd/vin01 ... xml#para44" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Translated:

Should any bhikkhu — participating in the training and livelihood of the bhikkhus, without having renounced the training, without having declared his weakness — engage in sexual intercourse, even with a female animal, he is defeated and no longer in affiliation.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/auth ... .ch04.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Number 55:
Pārājiko hotīti seyyathāpi nāma puriso sīsacchinno abhabbo tena sarīrabandhanena jīvituṃ, evameva bhikkhu methunaṃ dhammaṃ paṭisevitvā assamaṇo hoti asakyaputtiyo. Tena vuccati – ‘pārājiko hotī’ti.
http://www.tipitaka.org/romn/cscd/vin01 ... xml#para55" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Translated:

"Pārājiko hoti" refer to bhikkhu who haven't been monk(samaṇa) who is sakyaputti(buddha current life family name). That is similar to a headless man reach a dead end to join that head with body.
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All from: Tipitaka Vol.1 Number.55
Above message maybe out of date. Latest update will be in massage's link.
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