It is time to wrap things up.
Arguments for the “Dream World” as follows:
MN 106: by santa100:
“The Blessed One said: "Monks, sensuality is inconstant, hollow, vain, deceptive. It is illusory, the babble of fools. Sensuality here & now; sensuality in lives to come; sensual perceptions here & now; sensual perceptions in lives to come: both are Mara's realm, Mara's domain, Mara's bait, Mara's range. They lead to these evil, unskillful mental states: greed, ill will, & contentiousness. They arise for the obstruction of a disciple of the noble ones here in training.”
“Heedfulness is the path to the Deathless.”
“The heedful die not.”
"Now, there are forms cognizable via the eye - agreeable, pleasing, charming, endearing,
fostering desire, enticing. If a monk does not relish them, welcome them, or remain fastened
to them, he is said to be a monk freed from forms cognizable by the eye. He has not gone
over to Mara's camp; he has not come under Mara's power. The Evil One cannot do with him
as he wills.
Abhidhamma View : Evil and Mara: by Yawares:
Mara is known as the Evil One; the Buddha is known as the Blessed One. Mara is the personification of Death: "the kilesas (defilements) also came to be called Mara in that they were instruments of Death, the causes enabling Death to hold sway over the world".
Mara is also called the lord of death (Maccuraaja), the exterminator (Antaka), the great king (Mahaaraaja), and the inescapable (Namuci).
Why is Mara so powerful?
The five strands of sensuality (kaama-guna): forms, sounds, aromas, flavors, tactile sensations plus ideas are Mara's power and the most powerful striking force.
"There are forms, monks, cognizable via the eye-- agreeable, pleasing, charming, endearing, fostering desire, enticing. If a monk relishes them, welcomes them, & remains fastened to them, he is said to be a monk fettered to forms cognizable by the eye. He has gone over to Mara's camp; he has come under Mara's power. The Evil One can do with him as he wills".
SN 12.15: by pegembara:
"By & large, Kaccayana, this world is supported by (takes as its object) a polarity, that of existence & non-existence. But when one sees the origination of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'non-existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one. When one sees the cessation of the world as it actually is with right discernment, 'existence' with reference to the world does not occur to one.
"By & large, Kaccayana, this world is in bondage to attachments, clingings (sustenances), & biases. But one such as this does not get involved with or cling to these attachments, clingings, fixations of awareness, biases, or obsessions; nor is he resolved on 'my self.' He has no uncertainty or doubt that just stress, when arising, is arising; stress, when passing away, is passing away. In this, his knowledge is independent of others. It's to this extent, Kaccayana, that there is right view.
"The Awaken One".....why would one need to wake up if it is real? This would only happen when one is asleep.
The film shows that Neo is "plugged in"......meaning it is not real.
Arguments for the “Real World” as follows:
Simply everything that we perceive with our senses? (eyes, ears, nose, body, taste and mind)
According to the sutras and other clues provided to date, it clearly shows that we are in fact in a dream world, full of illusions. Why would one need to be awakened if this is not a dream? Neo being “plugged in” clearly shows that it is not real.
But according to the great majority of human beings, they believe that everything they perceive is in fact real.....is this really true?
So where do you stand to date, are you in the dream world or are you still in the real world?
Here is a very simple question for those who still believe this is the real world as it currently stands:
The teaching of the Buddha is to allow one to escape samsara, it is telling you that everything is an illusion, a dream and one would need to wake up from that dream.....but yet, you choose to believe in your own senses.........WHY? So why did you take up Buddhism for?
Anyone brave enough to answer the question?