Reunify the Buddhism, is there any way?

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Re: Reunify the Buddhism, is there any way?

Post by DNS » Thu Aug 23, 2012 3:46 am

danieLion wrote:When was Buddhism ever unified?
Perhaps about 528 BCE to 500 BCE i.e., only about 28 years from the time of the first sermon to when Devadatta attempted a schism. After the paranibbana of the Buddha conflicts arose over mostly Vinaya issues, then the various early schools, etc., etc.

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Re: Reunify the Buddhism, is there any way?

Post by Cittasanto » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:04 am

suttametta wrote: These are some very neat little categories. You've got your Nikayism, your Mahayanism and your Vajrayanism. Nope. No isms in this list.

There's no need to unify anything. Everything is up for grabs and completely open to scrutiny and reevaluation. Just as it always has been.
This is the first time I have seen ism used with these words. However, I also do not see a problem with the use of an abstract nouns indicating specific doctrine considering the dhamma uses conventional language and categorisation to express truth and make it easier to understand. several positions maybe correct but to say these positions are all the same is like saying wood and clay are the same.

The teachings and practices, as always, are for practice not separation, different opinions can inform each other or not. ism isn't at fault unless you want to imply sectarianism instead of respectful coexistence.
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Re: Reunify the Buddhism, is there any way?

Post by Aloka » Thu Aug 23, 2012 7:25 am

whynotme wrote: What should everyone do?
To let go of views and opinions about having an ideal 'Buddhism' and to just practice is the best offering to give .

....and of course that's also an opinion ! :)

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Re: Reunify the Buddhism, is there any way?

Post by suttametta » Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:43 pm

mfesmith wrote:Buddha Dharma is already unified. Buddhists simply need to drop their "isms" and then it will be taken care of.

In other words, there are a variety of approaches to the problem of dealing with the afflictions which cause rebirth in samsara.
Be honest, you think an Arahat is in an ignorant one-sided frozen samadhi. Your words. Don't pretend you aren't sectarian.

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Re: Reunify the Buddhism, is there any way?

Post by waimengwan » Fri Aug 24, 2012 5:07 pm

All traditions have the 4 noble truths which branches out to all aspects of the dharma. And also the 3 seals is common amongst all buddhist traditions. I think this unifies everyone IMHO.

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