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Antarabhava

Post by black hole » Tue Jul 10, 2012 4:19 pm

It seems that the concept of Bardo exists in ancient Buddhism: antarabhava. Does anyone have information about this and mostly refrences to suttas?
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Re: Antarabhava

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:45 pm

I could not find the term anywhere in the Tipitaka, its Commentaries, or Subcommentaries.

Its a term from Mahāyāna Buddhism. According to Theravāda Buddhism, rebirth takes place instantly.
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Re: Antarabhava

Post by daverupa » Tue Jul 10, 2012 5:52 pm

As far as I can recall, the metaphor of a person moving between houses is the closest the Suttas get to describing any sort of intermediary state (MN 130). It's a very far cry from Bardo, however.
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Re: Antarabhava

Post by DNS » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:21 pm

You probably meant gandhabba ?

http://www.dhammawiki.com/index.php?title=Gandhabba" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'bhuutaa vaa sambhavesii vaa"
"to beings who have come to be and those about to come to be."
Metta Sutta

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Re: Antarabhava

Post by kirk5a » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:27 pm

There is this sutta:
"And at the moment when a being sets this body aside and is not yet reborn in another body, what do you designate as its sustenance then?"

"Vaccha, when a being sets this body aside and is not yet reborn in another body, I designate it as craving-sustained, for craving is its sustenance at that time."
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Re: Antarabhava

Post by piotr » Tue Jul 10, 2012 6:42 pm

Hi,

You may find this article relevant: http://www.scribd.com/doc/78013590/Rebi ... ahn-Sujato" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Antarabhava

Post by black hole » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:31 am

Thank you Piotr. This article is really very, very interesting.
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Re: Antarabhava

Post by DGDC » Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:02 pm

"to beings who have come to be and those about to come to be."
Metta Sutta

I understand bhuta va sambhavesi va differently.

Bhuta: Those who have become

Sambhavesi: Those who are arahants or anagamins. Compare thasaa va thaavaraa va.

Note: The name Metta Sutta is not unique. It is called Karaniya metta sutta by some. It is one of the Suttas in the Sutta Nipata. The Sutta was a kammatthana for bhikkhus at the time Lord Buddha. The 14 qualities necessary to practice this kammatthana is given in the sutta beginning with: sakko... It is not possible to translate these suttas to English or to any other human language.

However, a word by word commentary is possible which takes the context fully into account,

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