Facebook induced suffering

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by Ben » Mon Jun 11, 2012 4:37 am

Yeah, thanks MP.
I saw that when I looked at my invites and blocked a number of annoying apps from sending me invites.
kind regrds,

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by FrancesB » Mon Jun 11, 2012 5:33 am

Yes, I had read that article and found much that chimed with my own experience. As a matter of fact 18 months ago I spoofed FB by creating an outrageous persona was wealthy, self obsessed and shallow. She had all sorts of 'adventures' - although I did keep it clean (no sex, drugs or alcohol). She was just forever shopping, travelling and socialising. She had very high standards so criticised anything and everything. She was also connected to the government and Royalty so she commented on political and social issues too. It was fun, but I'm not sure how skillful it was! :thinking:
rowboat wrote:Hi Frances. I was just looking at this study reported in the Guardian on the negative psychological effects of Facebook:

Facebook's 'dark side': study finds link to socially aggressive narcissism
Psychology paper finds Facebook and other social media offer platform for obsessions with self-image and shallow friendships

Researchers have established a direct link between the number of friends you have on Facebook and the degree to which you are a "socially disruptive" narcissist, confirming the conclusions of many social media sceptics.

People who score highly on the Narcissistic Personality Inventory questionnaire had more friends on Facebook, tagged themselves more often and updated their newsfeeds more regularly.

The research comes amid increasing evidence that young people are becoming increasingly narcissistic, and obsessed with self-image and shallow friendships.

The latest study, published in the journal Personality and Individual Differences, also found that narcissists responded more aggressively to derogatory comments made about them on the social networking site's public walls and changed their profile pictures more often.

A number of previous studies have linked narcissism with Facebook use, but this is some of the first evidence of a direct relationship between Facebook friends and the most "toxic" elements of narcissistic personality disorder.


Here is the rest of the article: http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/20 ... narcissism" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by rucontent » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:39 pm

I am glad to see that so many people at least have an opinion. :) Glad also to see that i am not the only that does not find value in the posts. Some people are fortunate probably to have only "aware" friends, and don't have to see too much garbage. I deactivated my Facebook account last week. I like it better. Somehow it feels like there is a new dimension of life opening up. When there are down times, or boring times, FB is not an option. This among other things that i have quit doing, in an attempt to increase my discipline, it is painful and slow but i keep in mind the 10 days I never thought i could make it through and I grew. Not in height! haha

I think the downfall for me was that i was in the music business. And i was friends with lots of people in the "industry" self promoting, liking everything the people with clout say, rude grand standing, etc...... mundane comments like "i just had the best sandwich".....anyway thanks for comments again...have a great day

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by reflection » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:42 pm

Nice applicable Dhammatalk by Ajahn Jayasaro: Facebook or Liberation?
http://feeds.amaravati.org/AmaravatiTalks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Although a short piece is specifically about facebook, the entire talk is quite interesting.

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by Hanzze » Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:49 pm

Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by rowboat » Thu Jun 14, 2012 7:11 pm

FrancesB: Yes, I had read that article and found much that chimed with my own experience. As a matter of fact 18 months ago I spoofed FB by creating an outrageous persona was wealthy, self obsessed and shallow. She had all sorts of 'adventures' - although I did keep it clean (no sex, drugs or alcohol). She was just forever shopping, travelling and socialising. She had very high standards so criticised anything and everything. She was also connected to the government and Royalty so she commented on political and social issues too. It was fun, but I'm not sure how skillful it was!
For me there were two distinct groups of people among my friends on Facebook. The first group all knew how to reach me. They are the people I saw regularly or communicated with regularly before there was a Facebook. Everyone in the second group seemed to have popped back into my life after a long absence only after I joined Facebook. They were mostly people I grew up with or went to school with, and most if not all seemed to be spoofing that cliché of Facebook in the same way you did, except they were in earnest.

Facebook became one more of those things I can do without. And everyone in the first group still knows how to reach me.

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by Kim OHara » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:44 pm

rowboat wrote:For me there were two distinct groups of people among my friends on Facebook. The first group all knew how to reach me. They are the people I saw regularly or communicated with regularly before there was a Facebook. Everyone in the second group seemed to have popped back into my life after a long absence only after I joined Facebook. They were mostly people I grew up with or went to school with, and most if not all seemed to be spoofing that cliché of Facebook in the same way you did, except they were in earnest.

Facebook became one more of those things I can do without. And everyone in the first group still knows how to reach me.

:shrug:
My experience is pretty similar and I use FB very little - mostly, like FrancesB, "I use FB to post social justice, animal welfare and environmental campaigns, which is useful." One click tells every 'friend' about a useful/informative page ... and I don't even have to visit FB to do it. :smile:

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by retrofuturist » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:47 pm

Greetings,
Ben wrote:I saw that when I looked at my invites and blocked a number of annoying apps from sending me invites.
Oh yeah, you have to do that!

Just don't block Words With Friends because blocking that would be blocking an invitation to have your butt kicked.

:ugeek:

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by rowboat » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:26 am

Kim O'Hara wrote:
rowboat wrote:For me there were two distinct groups of people among my friends on Facebook. The first group all knew how to reach me. They are the people I saw regularly or communicated with regularly before there was a Facebook. Everyone in the second group seemed to have popped back into my life after a long absence only after I joined Facebook. They were mostly people I grew up with or went to school with, and most if not all seemed to be spoofing that cliché of Facebook in the same way you did, except they were in earnest.

Facebook became one more of those things I can do without. And everyone in the first group still knows how to reach me.

:shrug:
My experience is pretty similar and I use FB very little - mostly, like FrancesB, "I use FB to post social justice, animal welfare and environmental campaigns, which is useful." One click tells every 'friend' about a useful/informative page ... and I don't even have to visit FB to do it. :smile:

:namaste:
Kim
Ah, the ubiquitous Facebook widget. I did some of that too. Passing on information about various social justice, animal welfare, and environmental campaigns.

I thought I would miss Facebook even just a little, but I am quite enjoying doing without.

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It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by Ben » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:30 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings,
Ben wrote:I saw that when I looked at my invites and blocked a number of annoying apps from sending me invites.
Oh yeah, you have to do that!

Just don't block Words With Friends because blocking that would be blocking an invitation to have your butt kicked.

:ugeek:

Metta,
Retro. :)
Well, that would be funny.
But seriously, my connection during the week in the wilds of Trouwenna is more unstable than ever before. I could only indulge in online scrabble or its variants on the weekend.
kind regards,

Ben
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by rowboat » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:56 am

I like :quote: ...

the Facebook Song:


Rain soddens what is covered up,
It does not sodden what is open.
Therefore uncover what is covered
That the rain will not sodden it.
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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by Hanzze » Thu Sep 20, 2012 6:26 am

Just came accross a poem
Social Media:
A Short Song of the Internet
by Betsy Horvath

On Facebook I stare at my wall
and wonder if I know you all.

I go to Twitter, thence to tweet
of what I wear and what I eat.

I think I’ll grab a book or two,
then head to Goodreads to review.

My blog post page is blank and white
I’ve not a clue of what to write.

I’ll visit other blogs instead
and comment there on what was said.

Then check on my email accounts
(between the five I tend to bounce).

Social media is good, it’s true
To keep in touch with all of you.

But writing I have nothing done
Except the poem I have just spun.

So I guess I’d better go turn the internet off now.
:jumping:
Just that! *smile*
...We Buddhists must find the courage to leave our temples and enter the temples of human experience, temples that are filled with suffering. If we listen to Buddha, Christ, or Gandhi, we can do nothing else. The refugee camps, the prisons, the ghettos, and the battlefields will become our temples. We have so much work to do. ... Peace is Possible! Step by Step. - Samtach Preah Maha Ghosananda "Step by Step" http://www.ghosananda.org/bio_book.html

BUT! it is important to become a real Buddhist first. Like Punna did: Punna Sutta Nate sante baram sokham _()_

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Re: Facebook induced suffering

Post by DAWN » Thu Sep 20, 2012 11:10 am

Information induced suffering.
Sabbe dhamma anatta
We are not concurents...
I'am sorry for my english

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