Buddha Statues facing East

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby oceanmen » Wed Jun 16, 2010 5:33 am

maybe we can learn from the example of the Buddha,
where did he meditate? what direction? in nature?
under a tree? or sitting in front of his statue?
and what was more important?
the meditation or the location/direction?

just wondering...

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby Refugee » Sat Jun 19, 2010 5:28 am

Laurens wrote:Its just a statue, kick its head off it you want to... You're not gonna hurt Buddhism


It's not "just a statue" for me. The shrine and the images of the Buddha in it help me to focus on, reflect on, and be inspired by the Dhamma. For me, Buddhism is a "religion" and not just a "philosophy". That's the way I see it. Others may see it differently and I respect that.

As for kicking off the head of the :buddha1: statue... :cookoo:

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby tiltbillings » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:49 am

Refugee wrote:
Laurens wrote:Its just a statue, kick its head off it you want to... You're not gonna hurt Buddhism


It's not "just a statue" for me. The shrine and the images of the Buddha in it help me to focus on, reflect on, and be inspired by the Dhamma. For me, Buddhism is a "religion" and not just a "philosophy". That's the way I see it. Others may see it differently and I respect that.

As for kicking off the head of the :buddha1: statue... :cookoo:

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby Mukunda » Sat Jun 19, 2010 6:33 pm

Laurens wrote:Its just a statue, kick its head off it you want to... You're not gonna hurt Buddhism


No, you won't hurt Buddhism. But what does it say about one's mind set? :thinking:
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby Laurens » Sun Jun 20, 2010 12:50 pm

The comment I made meant not disrespect or anything, all I am saying is you can do what you want really, its only a statue.

Like when the Buddha's were destroyed in Afghanistan... That did nothing to the Dhamma at all. It's not about statues - That's my point.
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby salmon » Tue Jun 22, 2010 8:36 am

Perhaps this east facing/west facing this has some cultural strings attached. In some Asian countries, people will choose a house which gets "morning sun" (east) rather than the "evening sun" (west). When I asked why, I was told that while morning sun is conducive to health, evening sun is harsh. Which is the same reason traditional Chinese folks will "bake" their babies in morning sun (not evening) to rid them of jaundice.

Just a guess...


PS. my altar faces west, by the way, because the layout of my room only allows for it to be placed that way.

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby David N. Snyder » Fri Jul 01, 2011 1:44 pm

shrtyp1 wrote:What happens if tuesday meditating buddha statue faces north?


The face of the Buddha statue gets very little sun (in the northern hemisphere).

No apocalypse, nothing else happens.

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby denice » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:41 am

do not attach yourself to the worry over if your shrine faces east .i agree with the first reply that it is merely rites and rituals .the shrine in essence is for mindfullness that once again you are not meant to attach to.after all it is your path ,there is no disrespect if it faces another direction all directions come together .i myself have a shrine in my home. so long as your buddha statue is above you as you are seated you are fine .

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby plwk » Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:57 am

so long as your buddha statue is above you as you are seated you are fine .

And if it isn't, then what?

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby denice » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:27 am

@ plwk ......if it isnt above you then nothing ...however the statue is not buddha ..we all are buddha already ,the statue placement of above you while seated in front is as a reminder of enlightenment ,and all other customs are done with respectfulness ,my point to the original question was not to attach to the worry of placement

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby Ben » Tue Jul 19, 2011 8:43 am

denice wrote:we all are buddha already
Hmmm....
I think if you check you might find that you're not actually a Buddha but a putthujana (worldling).

Plwk:
The placement of a Buddharupa is about developing respect, gratitude and some of those other good-to-have mental qualities which assists one on the path.
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby plwk » Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:00 am

Thank you denice.

True Ben. The Southern Indian friends I know have no qualms placing religious statues on the floor, including a Buddha rupa. To them, that spot on the floor is as usable as a higher platform as long as it's a designated area for religious practice. In my culture, the Chinese one that is, however, it is totally 'inappropriate' or even 'taboo' to place anything religious or regarded as respectable on the floor and should always be eye level or higher. Hence, I came to a conclusion, 'when in Rome, do as the Romans do'...

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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby gavesako » Sat Jan 28, 2017 5:53 am

It seems that there is also a tradition at least in Korea to express different aspects of the Buddha in the four directions:

Each statue has different hand positions. The Buddha facing east is in the fearless position. The Buddha facing west is Turning the Wheel of Dharma. The Buddha facing south is touching the earth and the Buddha facing north is in the reclining position (the Buddha's final state of enlightenment before his death).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palsangjeon


But mostly it is a matter of folk beliefs and ritual behaviour, as this article shows:

Buddha statue has to face east, officials say
http://www.phnompenhpost.com/national/b ... icials-say
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby SarathW » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:20 am

[quoteBut mostly it is a matter of folk beliefs and ritual behaviour, as this article shows:][/quote]

I am not going to discard old belief without some good investigations.
When we say Buddhas statue, we are not just talking about concrete or rocks.
Buddha's statue is a meditation lesson written without words or letters. (eg: cross leggs and body erect is an important when meditate)
It also should remember that Hindus were worshiping sun in this period and Buddha had to adhere to some customs.
Another factor is the earths magnetic fields and we do not know how it affect our mind states.
If you are meditating in the morning will you be facing east or west?
If you are meditating in the afternoon will you be facing east or west?
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby pilgrim » Sat Jan 28, 2017 8:30 am

So why did the Buddha face east?
Well we know that the Buddha was enlightened on the morning of Wesak that is in May. This time of the year is the peak of the hot indian summer. He first sat down under the Bodhi tree on the evening of Wesak Eve probably around 5 to 6 pm when the sun was low on the horizon.
So the Buddha faced east, for no mystical reason but because in this position, he was on the eastern part of the large Bodhi tree where the shade was and he had his back to the Bodhi tree and the evening sun.
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:00 am

When meditating, one should sit facing towards nibbāna, which means that one should practice with one's mind inclined towards not clinging to anything, whether that be pleasant experiences, unpleasant experiences, having good concentration, poor concentration, pure thoughts, impure thoughts, etc.
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby SarathW » Sat Jan 28, 2017 9:22 am

When meditating, one should sit facing towards nibbāna

I think we have to be practical.
You cant meditate if you are sitting on a volcano.
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby Mkoll » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:04 pm

SarathW wrote:
When meditating, one should sit facing towards nibbāna

I think we have to be practical.
You cant meditate if you are sitting on a volcano.

I think Bhante's comment was meant to be taken figuratively, not physically.
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby Bhikkhu Pesala » Sat Jan 28, 2017 6:40 pm

I think Sarath's comment was also meant to be taken figuratively. You cannot meditate facing nibbāna if your mind is erupting with defilements.
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Re: Buddha Statues facing East

Postby Mkoll » Sat Jan 28, 2017 7:49 pm

Bhikkhu Pesala wrote:I think Sarath's comment was also meant to be taken figuratively. You cannot meditate facing nibbāna if your mind is erupting with defilements.

Perhaps. "Sitting on a volcano" is an expression I haven't heard before.
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