Are there a certain type (upsampada/senior, for example) of monk who can ordain another, or can anyone be approached for this?
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Re: Ordination -who offers?
Only a monk authorised to be a preceptor (Upajjhaya) can do this, I'm not sure what the criteria for becoming a Upajjhaya is.rowyourboat wrote:Are there a certain type (upsampada/senior, for example) of monk who can ordain another, or can anyone be approached for this?
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Re: Ordination -who offers?
Goofaholix wrote:Only a monk authorised to be a preceptor (Upajjhaya) can do this, I'm not sure what the criteria for becoming a Upajjhaya is.rowyourboat wrote:Are there a certain type (upsampada/senior, for example) of monk who can ordain another, or can anyone be approached for this?
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This is both true and false!
yes today certain groups, such as in the Thai sangha, Upajayas need permission, but it isn't Vinaya exactly, and I am not sure whether it is a custom of all the sanghas (i.e. burma, lao, Sri Lanka etc.)
Personally I see the authorisation as a safeguard for potential monks, that the upajjhayas meet the minimum qualification described in the texts.
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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Re: Ordination -who offers?
If anyone knows the customs in Sri Lanka please let me know.
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