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Papanca!

Post by retrofuturist » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:45 pm

Two monks and a flag

Two monks were arguing about the temple flag waving in the wind. One said, "The flag moves." The other said, "The wind moves." They argued back and forth but could not agree.

Unable to resolve their disagreement, they approached the abbot, to seek a resolution.

The abbot said, "Monks, it is your minds that are moving! Quit with the papanca monkey chatter and get back to your meditation"

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Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

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Re: Papanca!

Post by Ben » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:46 pm

Retro,
Did you make that up?
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Papanca!

Post by retrofuturist » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:48 pm

Greetings Ben,
Ben wrote:Retro,
Did you make that up?
Like all good stories, it borrowed heavily from other stories.

:D

http://www.101zenstories.org/enos-flag/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"To argue with a person who has renounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead" - Thomas Paine

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Re: Papanca!

Post by Ben » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:49 pm

Hmm...
I think I will go and meditate before the proliferation begins...
“No lists of things to be done. The day providential to itself. The hour. There is no later. This is later. All things of grace and beauty such that one holds them to one's heart have a common provenance in pain. Their birth in grief and ashes.”
- Cormac McCarthy, The Road

Learn this from the waters:
in mountain clefts and chasms,
loud gush the streamlets,
but great rivers flow silently.
- Sutta Nipata 3.725

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Re: Papanca!

Post by bodom » Sat Jun 11, 2011 11:51 pm

One day this monk told Ajahn Chah the Zen story about the flag and the wind, and asked: Is it the flag that blows or is it the wind?" Ajahn Chah answered: "It's neither; it's the mind" The Korean monk thought that was wonderful and immediately bowed to Ajahn Chah. But then Ajahn Chah said he'd just read the story in the Thai translation of Hui Neng.
http://www.amaravati.org/fsn/html/09/9.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:jumping:

:anjali:
To study is to know the texts,
To practice is to know your defilements,
To attain the goal is to know and let go.

- Ajahn Lee Dhammadharo


With mindfulness immersed in the body
well established, restrained
with regard to the six media of contact,
always centered, the monk
can know Unbinding for himself.

- Ud 3.5


"Dont send the mind outside. Watch the mind right at the mind."

- Ajahn Dune Atulo

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Re: Papanca!

Post by m0rl0ck » Sun Jun 12, 2011 12:00 am

I like this story too :)

The topper to it was delivered by a chinese nun.

http://buddhism.about.com/od/whoswhoinb ... iaoxin.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Papanca!

Post by christopher::: » Sun Jun 12, 2011 1:35 am

bodom wrote:
One day this monk told Ajahn Chah the Zen story about the flag and the wind, and asked: Is it the flag that blows or is it the wind?" Ajahn Chah answered: "It's neither; it's the mind" The Korean monk thought that was wonderful and immediately bowed to Ajahn Chah. But then Ajahn Chah said he'd just read the story in the Thai translation of Hui Neng.
http://www.amaravati.org/fsn/html/09/9.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:jumping:
:clap:
"As Buddhists, we should aim to develop relationships that are not predominated by grasping and clinging. Our relationships should be characterised by the brahmaviharas of metta (loving kindness), mudita (sympathetic joy), karuna (compassion), and upekkha (equanimity)."
~post by Ben, Jul 02, 2009

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