Jhana4 wrote:I think that unconscious westernization of sila is also why some people get upset when it is discussed. In western religions something that is not of holy origins is of less value. Having that attitude I can see why a person running on unconscious western religious assumptions would get offended when someone would point out the non-divine origins of sila. Saying it is not holy would be the same as saying it is not important......on an emotional level, though that would be far from the case on a rational level.
Exactly... I think that was basically the brahmins' mindset at the time of the Buddha. So, one should be careful not to elevate himself just by his adherence to something, such as Sila (i.e., by parroting, or by claiming that he sees it as something divine). It's meant to be practiced, leading to an holy life... but not seen as something that is holy in itself. (Hope that makes sense.)
Bodhisurfer wrote:personally I take a much broader view of what sexual misconduct is. To me its far more than a physical act with someone outside of my existing relationship. -I would include looking upon someone lustfully in the street or even on tv. Also treating someone less favourably purely because of their gender is, to me, a form of sexual misconduct -I'm not claiming that i never do any of these things by the way but arent we all 'a work in progress'
I think that's really admirable. Maybe I should start focusing on thinking in that way.