How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

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How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by clw_uk » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:23 pm

Greetings


Is there a sutta or a passage where the Buddha gives advice on how to reconize if a teaching is correct in terms of Dhamma, sort of how to analyze if a teaching or interpretation is Dhamma or not?


P.S. Not the kalama sutta


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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by DNS » Wed Apr 01, 2009 6:32 pm

I think it was just quoted here in the last two days, I forget which one it is exactly, but it says something like, any teaching that is in accord with the Noble Eightfold Middle Path, including sila, is Dhamma, that brings you to the end of dukkha, it is Dhamma.

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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by gavesako » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:02 pm

The Gotami Sutta is at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I (coincidentally?) just made a video talking about it, because it seems to be a subject that many Buddhists wonder about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfbhJxHgSPg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by clw_uk » Wed Apr 01, 2009 9:52 pm

Thank you Bhante for the link and the video



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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by DNS » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:05 pm

:thanks: Bhante!

Perfect timing for the post and the video.

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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by Cittasanto » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:33 pm

the parinibana sutta http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

and I asked a question recently about the one I think The Dhamma is referring to http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; referring to how to read it as it didn't make sense to me, and I have a suspicion there is a part of the maha-parinibbana sutta which says the same.


EDIT the thread I mention above referencing the second Sutta is found here http://www.dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=972" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by Cittasanto » Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:44 pm

gavesako wrote:The Gotami Sutta is at http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka ... .than.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And I (coincidentally?) just made a video talking about it, because it seems to be a subject that many Buddhists wonder about.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfbhJxHgSPg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I do enjoy your talks Bhante, have a subscription to Dhammatube and watched it earlier
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He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them.
But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not so much as know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion …
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He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them … he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.
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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by Bhikkhu Pesala » Thu Apr 02, 2009 7:53 am

Another succinct discourse is the Eight Thoughts of a Great Man.
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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by retrofuturist » Thu Apr 02, 2009 9:06 am

Greetings,

The following also comes to mind...

"Those who teach a Dhamma for the abandoning of passion, for the abandoning of aversion, for the abandoning of delusion — their Dhamma is well-taught."
AN 3.72 - Ajivaka Sutta

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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by genkaku » Thu Apr 02, 2009 10:46 am

As a post script and intending no disrespect:

It is helpful to have helpful and supportive sources. Children rely on their parents as authoritative and kind. Who could ever forget them?

AND ... all children who grow up will inevitably leave home. In this way, they will learn to actualize the Dharma wherever they go...they will have no need to ask.

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Re: How to tell what is and isnt Dhamma

Post by Ana » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:53 pm

the only way is meditation

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