Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by Nikaya35 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 2:47 pm

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dhammapal wrote:
IanAnd wrote:
maitreya31 wrote:Where I can buy the Anguttara Nikaya from another publisher and another translator ? I want it now . I can not wait for the bihkku Bodhi edition it seems we have to wait at least a few years.
While I can understand this sentiment, and even to some degree agree with it, the wait for Bhk. Bodhi's translation will be well worth the time spent waiting once we see the final product. The time and care he puts into writing the Introductions and footnotes is well worth waiting for in order to get his insightful and experienced take on the Dhamma.

It shouldn't be too much longer before it's ready for publication. In the meantime, I can highly recommend Nyanaponika's Anthology of the Anguttara, as it is filled with an excellent choice of suttas along with insightful commentary in the footnotes. Yes, it's only about one tenth the length of the full Anguttara, but even so, the choices made in sutta selection was well considered in terms of importance in being able to better understand the Dhamma.
See an Anguttara Nikaya Anthology by Nyanaponika Thera and Bhikkhu Bodhi on the Buddhist Publication Society website in three parts:
http://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh155-p.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh208-p.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh238-p.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by mikenz66 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 7:40 pm

Note that there also a PDF version on the BPS site, better if you want to print the volumes:
http://www.bps.lk/onlinelibrary_wheels.asp#trans" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by retrofuturist » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:56 pm

Greetings,

I'm putting off reading the anthologies to save me double reading the same translations. (I assume Bhikkhu Bodhi won't revise those translations, at least not in any substantive manner)

There'll be enough reading to do, as it is! :reading:

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"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by mikenz66 » Thu Mar 17, 2011 11:25 pm

retrofuturist wrote: I'm putting off reading the anthologies to save me double reading the same translations. (I assume Bhikkhu Bodhi won't revise those translations, at least not in any substantive manner)
Actually, I agree with putting off reading them because there may well be significant changes from the translations from 30-40 years ago and there will certainly be considerably more detailed references to ancient and modern commentary and analysis, and cross-referencing to other suttas.

There are significant differences even between editions of the MN (as I found out when involved in a sutta study group (I think we had all three editions between us). I think the sutta discussed in this thread http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7726" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is a case where the later edition has changed the paragraph under discussion, and I recall that in some suttas we discussed the English word used for some Pali term or other had changed.

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by retrofuturist » Fri Mar 18, 2011 3:29 am

Greetings Mike,

..... and if that's the way the dice rolls I'll be happy to have waited too.

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by dhammapal » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:06 am

mikenz66 wrote:
retrofuturist wrote: I'm putting off reading the anthologies to save me double reading the same translations. (I assume Bhikkhu Bodhi won't revise those translations, at least not in any substantive manner)
Actually, I agree with putting off reading them because there may well be significant changes from the translations from 30-40 years ago and there will certainly be considerably more detailed references to ancient and modern commentary and analysis, and cross-referencing to other suttas.

There are significant differences even between editions of the MN (as I found out when involved in a sutta study group (I think we had all three editions between us). I think the sutta discussed in this thread http://dhammawheel.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=7726" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; is a case where the later edition has changed the paragraph under discussion, and I recall that in some suttas we discussed the English word used for some Pali term or other had changed.

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Hi Mike,
The BPS Anthology includes this quote:
Copyright © Kandy, Buddhist Publication Society, (1970)
First edition: 1970.
Second edition: 1980.

BPS Online Edition © (2010)
Digital Transcription Source: BPS.

For this edition, the revised translations by Venerable Bodhi as given in the Numerical Discourses of the Buddha have been used with his kind permission.
http://www.bps.lk/olib/wh/wh155-p.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
With metta / dhammapal.

PS Don't forget Thanissaro Bhikkhu's translations on Access to Insight! I like them because I can post them for free distribution without having to ask for copyright permission.
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/an/index.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by mikenz66 » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:14 am

Hi Dhammapal,

Doesn't that refer to the revised version issued in 1980?

http://www.amazon.com/Numerical-Discour ... 0742504050" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by dhammapal » Fri Mar 18, 2011 8:28 am

Hi Mike,

I have the original Wheel 155 published and printed in 1981 and no mention of Bhikkhu Bodhi just Nyanaponika Thera.

Wikipedia says that Bhikkhu Bodhi's anthology was in 2000.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bhikkhu_Bodhi" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by Cessation » Tue May 03, 2011 11:10 pm

Anyone know any new info on the release date? I finished the samyutta not too long ago by Bhikkhu Bodhi and I can't wait to read this one aswell.

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by BKh » Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:31 pm

Good news on the Wisdom site:
Wisdom Publications has received Bhikkhu Bodhi's new translation of the Anguttara Nikaya, which is currently being reviewed by our editor. Any available information or updates on this project will be announced in the Wisdom Reader e-newsletter.
http://www.wisdompubs.org/pages/display ... n=&image=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

It doesn't have it's own news page, just found on the pages for his other books.
ReadingFaithfully.org Daily Practice with the Suttas | becomeabuddhist.org
audtip. org Audio Sutta Recordings | BuddhaRupa Images of the Buddha across time and space

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by Nikaya35 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:04 pm

According to the Wisdom page in the part of the Buddha Teachings , the Anguttara Nikaya is in the review process . Apparently Bhikkhu Bodhi completed the translation .

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by daverupa » Sat Oct 08, 2011 6:59 pm

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  • "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting oneself one protects others? By the pursuit, development, and cultivation of the four establishments of mindfulness. It is in such a way that by protecting oneself one protects others.

    "And how is it, bhikkhus, that by protecting others one protects oneself? By patience, harmlessness, goodwill, and sympathy. It is in such a way that by protecting others one protects oneself.

- Sedaka Sutta [SN 47.19]

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by mikenz66 » Sat Oct 08, 2011 7:04 pm

From a recent interview:
http://jizochronicles.com/2011/09/01/in ... khu-bodhi/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
JC: What else would you like people to know about you?

Bhikkhu Bodhi: I should mention that I also translate Buddhist texts from Pali into English. A couple of months ago I completed a translation of the Anguttara Nikaya, which has been submitted to Wisdom Publications and will be published in 2012. I donated a substantial portion of the royalties from my earlier publications to create, through Wisdom, a Nikayas Fund. The intention is to donate sets of the English translations of the four Nikayas to monasteries and libraries in the disadvantaged countries of Buddhist Asia, Eastern Europe, and elsewhere where the costs would be formidable.
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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by retrofuturist » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:11 am

Greetings Mike,

That is cool... it's a positive wholesome thought to bring to mind when forking over our cash to Amazon etc. - a thought that is much preferable to, and more beneficial than an unwholesome "the Dhamma should be free" whinge.

Metta,
Retro. :)
"Do not force others, including children, by any means whatsoever, to adopt your views, whether by authority, threat, money, propaganda, or even education." - Ven. Thich Nhat Hanh

"The uprooting of identity is seen by the noble ones as pleasurable; but this contradicts what the whole world sees." (Snp 3.12)

"One discerns wrong view as wrong view, and right view as right view. This is one's right view." (MN 117)

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Re: Bodhi watch... or waiting for the Anguttara

Post by Ben » Sun Oct 09, 2011 12:13 am

retrofuturist wrote:Greetings Mike,

That is cool... it's a positive wholesome thought to bring to mind when forking over our cash to Amazon etc. - a thought that is much preferable to, and more beneficial than an unwholesome "the Dhamma should be free" whinge.

Metta,
Retro. :)
Indeed!
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